while on cycle

[rjlariv]

should i have a different lifting regime while on cycle. I am on week two of my ten week test cyp + dbol cycle. I dont want to overtrain however i feel good enough to hit the same muscle every 72 hours. is this ok or should i just wait it out for the whole five to seven days. any help is much appreciated. also should i change it up again once my first four weeks with the dbol is up and i am doing test only? I have five years lifting experience and am 206lbs. 69" @13.5%bf.

[rjlariv]

Here is what my 6 day split workout currently looks like:
Mon-Chest/Tris
Tue-Legs
Wed-Shoulders/Chest
Thur-Back/Bis
Fri-Rest
Sat-Chest/Shoulders
Sun-Back

I mix three days of cardio in there. Wednesday i do a full shoulder workout. then four sets of flat bench at sufficient weight to reach failure at two or three reps. the other two chest days are actual full blown chest killer lifts.
I am on week two and never felt better. I am focusing mostly on chest becuase my arms and back are massive in comparison. I have learned to listen to my body over all else however i am reading on here that it could be overtraining and have catabolic effects on my bulking cycle. i am on a high protein 350 to 400 grams ED. mostly meats and glutamine rich whey. some cassien and milk at dinner, before bed, and again in the middle of the night. so I conclude that it might not be overtraining. just need a second opinion please.

[mousetraps]

If your cycle is properly constructed (dosages) you should have much problem recovering from that in my opinion. the chest/shoulders 3x a week might be a tad much (shoulders will be stimulated on monday) but I think you'll get the feel for what you can do by how soreness affects your training.

[rjlariv]

thanks. any one else who has used gear before have any advice? I am only sore the day after then it goes away by the time i am ready to hit that muscle group up again. I have extensive experience and know i my routine is good and I am fatiguing the muscle properly while in the gym.

[helium3]

If your cycle is properly constructed (dosages) you should have much problem recovering from that in my opinion. the chest/shoulders 3x a week might be a tad much (shoulders will be stimulated on monday) but I think you'll get the feel for what you can do by how soreness affects your training.

i wish youd get rid of that avitar it makes me horny as f@@k,must be just the way she looks.

[helium3]

thanks. any one else who has used gear before have any advice? I am only sore the day after then it goes away by the time i am ready to hit that muscle group up again. I have extensive experience and know i my routine is good and I am fatiguing the muscle properly while in the gym.

well i assume you are reducing the volume,training
bp 3x per week,if not you maybe heading for trouble,hittnng the muscle that often requires a lower volume,doms(delayed onset muscle soreness)can be overcome quickly but is not a good indication of muscle fatigue and overtraining so becareful.

[rjlariv]

well i assume you are reducing the volume,training
bp 3x per week,if not you maybe heading for trouble,hittnng the muscle that often requires a lower volume,doms(delayed onset muscle soreness)can be overcome quickly but is not a good indication of muscle fatigue and overtraining so becareful.

What do you mean volume? as far as intensity, length, weight?

[helium3]

what i mean is do you break your chest routine up throughout the week,you cant possibly hit your chest 3x a week with say 12 sets mon-wed-fri this would be insane and you wouldnt grow at hardly, if you split that up into 4 sets each day then maybe.

if you want to raise frequency(amount you train each muscle)you must decrease volume(the amount of sets per bodypart) or you would serverely overtrain.

H3

[freakonomiks]

listen to the advice your getting, overtraining is serious and will get you frustrated, until recently i was a victim and my cycle wasnt working. rest is KEY for growth, quit being insane and train accordingly

[rjlariv]

what i mean is do you break your chest routine up throughout the week,you cant possibly hit your chest 3x a week with say 12 sets mon-wed-fri this would be insane and you wouldnt grow at hardly, if you split that up into 4 sets each day then maybe.

if you want to raise frequency(amount you train each muscle)you must decrease volume(the amount of sets per bodypart) or you would serverely overtrain.

H3

Noted. I appreciate the help. I am not doing a full chest workout three times a week. i do flat, incline, decline and flys on monday. only flat on wednesday for four sets of heavy weight. then on saturday i do a full day like monday. So i basically work my chest twice a week. and the middle day is not to rip the muscle again. just put stress on it. that is why it is only four sets at 2-3 reps real heavy weight. still overtraining?

[rjlariv]

listen to the advice your getting, overtraining is serious and will get you frustrated, until recently i was a victim and my cycle wasnt working. rest is KEY for growth, quit being insane and train accordingly

Thanks for the redundancy... Train accordingly to what? I dont think you have read through this whole thread. What is insane about my training tactics while on test cyp and dbol?

[JohnboyF]

I think the insane part is you train 6 days a week and your training chest EOD. and when you train chest your training shoulders.

[rjlariv]

I think the insane part is you train 6 days a week and your training chest EOD. and when you train chest your training shoulders.

I still dont think there is anything insane about that given the circumstances. 500mg test cyp EW + 40mg thai dbol ED. The lowered levels of cortisol from the dbol as well as the more efficient use of my protein i am getting from the test should be sufficient enough to work the same muscle group more frequent than if going natty. My question is simply how often is too often? 72 hrs? 96 hrs? I would like some vets opinions on this please. or maybe someone who has at least one cycle under their belt.

[taiboxa]

i never ever change my lifting regiment when on or off.. it stays the same depending on whether im cutting or bulking..
aas is great but NOT MAGICAL

[rjlariv]

i never ever change my lifting regiment when on or off.. it stays the same depending on whether im cutting or bulking..
aas is great but NOT MAGICAL

Thank you for the advice. I appreciate it and that answers my question completely. How does this look?

Mon-Chest
Tues-Legs
Wed-Back
Thur-rest
Fri-Shoulders/Traps
Sat-Bis/Tris
Sun-Rest


Better?

[taiboxa]

Thank you for the advice. I appreciate it and that answers my question completely. How does this look?

Mon-Chest
Tues-Legs
Wed-Back
Thur-rest
Fri-Shoulders/Traps
Sat-Bis/Tris
Sun-Rest


Better?

looks identical to a Dr. Michael Colgan work out which is a good thing, so get after it

[guest589745]

Whos dr michael colgan?

[taiboxa]

Whos dr michael colgan?

some dood that used to work w/ olympic athletes.. he is very NEAT to say the least.. like a 60yrold man who has a hot wife and can do 1arm pull ups