Bench

**audis4** · 10-06-2006, 04:33 PM

As far as bench press is concered, I have deleted the long bar flat bench out of my chest exercises. I now only do free weights.
As of monday, I did 100lbs. 1 set, 8 reps (warmup), 110lbs 1 set, 8 reps, 120lbs 1 set, 8 reps and one more set of 8 reps of the 120lbs d-bells.

My question is, am I working the same with the d-bells as I would with the longbar AND is lets say 120lbs d-bells comparable to 240lbs on the flat bench (seems like d-bells would be harder)

Thanks for any responses.

**THE_DOME** · 10-06-2006, 08:48 PM

ya audis, db are always harder mostly because your incorporating addition stablizer muscles than you would normally with standard barbell

**THE_DOME** · 10-06-2006, 08:51 PM

i would say your working more with db, i always get a better burn with db

**l2elapse** · 10-06-2006, 09:08 PM

i usually get the best feeling doing incline bb

**THE_DOME** · 10-06-2006, 09:14 PM

yea thats for sure

**matt50** · 10-07-2006, 07:37 AM

i like the incline DBs...gives a nice stretch

**audis4** · 10-07-2006, 11:00 AM

Alright, thanks for the responses guys! Yes, I incorporate incline/flat/flyes etc. and kill my chest : )
Thanks again.

**svarturer** · 10-07-2006, 03:31 PM

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**daytrader** · 10-07-2006, 03:57 PM

I think im done with flat BB as well... BB presses really seem to be screwing with my rotator latley

**audis4** · 10-09-2006, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by daytrader

I think im done with flat BB as well... BB presses really seem to be screwing with my rotator latley

ya, and whats weird is I don't feel the stretch in my chest like I do with D-bells.

And svartur, I think do a couple warm up sets with like 60lbs then jump to 120's.....today will be 125-130's

**svarturer** · 10-09-2006, 09:21 AM

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***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-09-2006, 09:33 AM

thats some good weight your moving there audis. I only do flat DB now. BB flat bench trains the ego more than the chest.

**DSM4Life** · 10-09-2006, 09:52 AM

I can honestly say i dont feel BB that much either. I try and keep strick form, @$$ on bench, feet flat, chest sticking up and slowing move the weight but still nothing. I have even tried changing my grip to where my thumb is under the bar , a tip i got off a milsov (wrong spelling) site but still no luck.
I hate traning chest now bring on the squats !

**zodiac666** · 10-09-2006, 11:10 AM

i dont like flat bb but i love incline bb. like i always say everyone's body is different, just experiment and find out what exercises work your muscles the best

**audis4** · 10-09-2006, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

thats some good weight your moving there audis. I only do flat DB now. BB flat bench trains the ego more than the chest.

Thanks beast! I've been working at it

Hopefully I will continue going up in weight!

**audis4** · 10-09-2006, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by svartur

thats my man, post the results

Will do bro! I'll let you all know what I end up doing today

**audis4** · 10-09-2006, 09:03 PM

I told you all I would update you when I did chest.
Today looked like this for flat bench d-bells:

warmed up with 65's for 2 sets of 8
Jumped to 120's for 1 set of 8
slapped on 2.5 lbs to that for 1 set of 8 (122.5lbs)
slapped on another 2.5lbs to for 1 set of 8 (125 lbs)

Incline bench d-bells:
warmed up with 65's 2 sets of 8
Jumped to 100's for 1 set of 8
Another set of 100's for 1 set of 8
One more set of 102.5 lbs for 1 set of 8

After the presses flyes followed.
I am very impressed with my overall strength. EVERYONE in the gym was starring (what my sis said) even the bigger guys...made me feel kinda good

**l2elapse** · 10-09-2006, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by audis4

I told you all I would update you when I did chest.
Today looked like this for flat bench d-bells:

warmed up with 65's for 2 sets of 8
Jumped to 120's for 1 set of 8
slapped on 2.5 lbs to that for 1 set of 8 (122.5lbs)
slapped on another 2.5lbs to for 1 set of 8 (125 lbs)

Incline bench d-bells:
warmed up with 65's 2 sets of 8
Jumped to 100's for 1 set of 8
Another set of 100's for 1 set of 8
One more set of 102.5 lbs for 1 set of 8

After the presses flyes followed.
I am very impressed with my overall strength. EVERYONE in the gym was starring (what my sis said) even the bigger guys...made me feel kinda good

whe you say the weight is that 120 on each side or 60 each arm

**audis4** · 10-10-2006, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by justinandrews7

whe you say the weight is that 120 on each side or 60 each arm

120 on each arm...well 125 for 1 set of 8

**svarturer** · 10-10-2006, 07:10 AM

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***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-10-2006, 07:14 AM

very impressive indeed, you on gear at the moment? If not I wanna see your lifts after a few weeks of test!

**Bruce000** · 10-10-2006, 08:06 AM

Well done Audis that is some serious weight!!!! I can only manager 88 each arm. I'm not on gear yet, is this a decent weight??

***Doc.Sust*** · 10-10-2006, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by THE_DOME

i would say your working more with db, i always get a better burn with db

work with both, this way your cns wont burn out,i dont beleive neglecting flat bar pressesis a good idea. you should swith it up everyother wk or every micro cycle of training,any resson you decide to quit doing flat press?also chances are if you can do 120lbs with dbells you can do more weight on the flat bench because you will use less stabilizer muscles, it is impossible to tell how much the difference would be, it would be a different number for every individual, only way to know would be to max out on the flat and than you would see the difference

**audis4** · 10-10-2006, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

work with both, this way your cns wont burn out,i dont beleive neglecting flat bar pressesis a good idea. you should swith it up everyother wk or every micro cycle of training,any resson you decide to quit doing flat press?also chances are if you can do 120lbs with dbells you can do more weight on the flat bench because you will use less stabilizer muscles, it is impossible to tell how much the difference would be, it would be a different number for every individual, only way to know would be to max out on the flat and than you would see the difference

Great, thanks for the input. I will try this next week

My gym only goes up to 120lbs d-bells so its a pain to add on the 2.5 (looks like a gold bar shape) I will ask them to go up to at least 150's.
Ya, I'm not sure what I can do on the longbar but I will try it on monday.

**audis4** · 10-10-2006, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

very impressive indeed, you on gear at the moment? If not I wanna see your lifts after a few weeks of test!

Thanks bro!
I'm on my 4th week of test/tbol and the test I can feel is kickin in big time! I was lifting 110's when I wasn't on gear which isn't too bad.

**audis4** · 10-10-2006, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Bruce000

Well done Audis that is some serious weight!!!! I can only manager 88 each arm. I'm not on gear yet, is this a decent weight??

Thanks bruce. Yes, 88 in each arm is great weight. You will work your way up before you know it. The beginning of June, I couldn't go higher than 85's

**audis4** · 10-10-2006, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by svartur

good job

you can do 8x125
next time try starting with 130 after warmup

Thanks svartur.
Yea, I will jump right into 130's after my 2-3 warm up sets.

**THE_DOME** · 10-10-2006, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by audis4

I told you all I would update you when I did chest.
Today looked like this for flat bench d-bells:

warmed up with 65's for 2 sets of 8
Jumped to 120's for 1 set of 8
slapped on 2.5 lbs to that for 1 set of 8 (122.5lbs)
slapped on another 2.5lbs to for 1 set of 8 (125 lbs)

Incline bench d-bells:
warmed up with 65's 2 sets of 8
Jumped to 100's for 1 set of 8
Another set of 100's for 1 set of 8
One more set of 102.5 lbs for 1 set of 8

After the presses flyes followed.
I am very impressed with my overall strength. EVERYONE in the gym was starring (what my sis said) even the bigger guys...made me feel kinda good

audis your my boy and all but come on who usese 2.5
go up 5 or dont up at all you probally could have gone up 10 if you wanted

**audis4** · 10-10-2006, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by THE_DOME

audis your my boy and all but come on who usese 2.5
go up 5 or dont up at all you probally could have gone up 10 if you wanted

all they had were 2.5's
I'm going to tell that bitch to order higher weights tomorrow!! ya, I could have done 130's. I would assume my max is around 150.

**THE_DOME** · 10-10-2006, 08:11 PM

at my gym for some reason we dont have any 35's, i say well f it put another plate on

dang man your catching up to me and i out weight you by 30lbs good work man i bet your getting mad strecht marks huh

**Haro3** · 10-10-2006, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by audis4

all they had were 2.5's
I'm going to tell that bitch to order higher weights tomorrow!! ya, I could have done 130's. I would assume my max is around 150.

god ur such a pussy

**audis4** · 10-10-2006, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by THE_DOME

at my gym for some reason we dont have any 35's, i say well f it put another plate on

dang man your catching up to me and i out weight you by 30lbs good work man i bet your getting mad strecht marks huh

I weigh 240 hehehe
stretch marks aren't bad actually, I'm sure there are more to come since this is the beginning of my 4th week 'on.'
Next week I'll try the long bar and see what I can press.

**THE_DOME** · 10-10-2006, 09:29 PM

damn i guess i better get going, you put on some weight then havent you since you last updated your profile

**audis4** · 10-10-2006, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by THE_DOME

damn i guess i better get going, you put on some weight then havent you since you last updated your profile

ya, gained 40 lbs in 4 weeks...not sure what happened there

**THE_DOME** · 10-10-2006, 09:56 PM

no way dude
were you taking dbol or on a cycle

**zodiac666** · 10-10-2006, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by audis4

Thanks bruce. Yes, 88 in each arm is great weight. You will work your way up before you know it. The beginning of June, I couldn't go higher than 85's

obviously you have been working out for a while and know what you're doing, but i would like to point out (especially for people who have not been working out long) that you shouldnt become too obsessed with the weight you use. sometimes if you try to go too heavy you will not work the target muscle as well. at least for bodybuilders you need to make sure you are focusing on the muscle and that muscle is doing most of the work.

**audis4** · 10-11-2006, 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by THE_DOME

no way dude
were you taking dbol or on a cycle

yes I'm on a cycle
test e
tbol

**audis4** · 10-11-2006, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by zodiac666

obviously you have been working out for a while and know what you're doing, but i would like to point out (especially for people who have not been working out long) that you shouldnt become too obsessed with the weight you use. sometimes if you try to go too heavy you will not work the target muscle as well. at least for bodybuilders you need to make sure you are focusing on the muscle and that muscle is doing most of the work.

ya I hear ya bro! 125's aren't hard for me so I can actually squeeze and feel a great pump afterwards!

***Doc.Sust*** · 10-11-2006, 01:49 PM

IMO dumbell work isgreat, but when you start getting to the higher numbers they are such a pain uin the ass to carry and set up for the exercise(you may injure yourself just setting up to do the exercise of choice!)yes flat bar press uses less stabilizers, but it is alt safer, also if youare doing dumbells soley for thefact that you can bring them down deeper than a flat bar, you may want to try the cammel bar, or cambered bar(bar has a hump in the middle of it so you can bring it lower than a regular flat bar)

**audis4** · 10-11-2006, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

IMO dumbell work isgreat, but when you start getting to the higher numbers they are such a pain uin the ass to carry and set up for the exercise(you may injure yourself just setting up to do the exercise of choice!)yes flat bar press uses less stabilizers, but it is alt safer, also if youare doing dumbells soley for thefact that you can bring them down deeper than a flat bar, you may want to try the cammel bar, or cambered bar(bar has a hump in the middle of it so you can bring it lower than a regular flat bar)

excellent, I appreciate the advice. I will see if I can incorporate all of these exercises for chest! I dunno I have always felt d-bells during/after my workout in my chest much more than I could using the flat bar. I'll try them all. Thanks doc