Cardio help

**Bruce000** · 10-17-2006, 08:15 AM

I know there are no shortcuts but i need some help. Is it necessary to run on the treadmill to loose BF. Some guys say a brisk walk will do the trick.I know diet is key. Some tips from you guys will help.
Thanks B

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-17-2006, 08:32 AM

you can lose fat doing anything as long as it get your heart rate up to a reasonable level. Work out what you need your HR to be to get optimal fat burning. the equation is 220-age*0.7. Im 30 and based on that equation my HR needs to be about 133 approx. Buy a cheap HR watch and see if a brisk walk is enough to get HR up high enough for you. Try and do cardio for at least 30 mins as many say fat burning doesn't start until 20mins in to it. Do your cardio on an emprty stomach. Do not eat anything for 30 mins after cardio as you will continue to burn fat during this time.

**Bruce000** · 10-17-2006, 08:37 AM

Thank you for your input Perfectbeast. The good thing with my body is that when i sort my diet out i cut fat quite fast. I've noticed some big guys in the Gym never do cadio. is this becaus they are on Gear? How ofter do you do cardio?
thanks for your help

***Narkissos*** · 10-17-2006, 08:41 AM

moving this thread to the workout forum...

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-17-2006, 08:49 AM

I do cardio every day. when bulking 30 mins in the AM on empty stomach. When cutting 45-60 mins AM and maybe again PM.

I can't answer why the guys in the gym are still shredded without cardio. Maybe there on clen /t3/ECA,gh,igf the list is endless. Maybe they just have real fast metabolism. One thing is for sure though. Without cardio they do not have a healthy heart.

***Narkissos*** · 10-17-2006, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

I can't answer why the guys in the gym are still shredded without cardio.

Maybe there on clen/t3/ECA,gh,igf the list is endless.

And maybe..their diet is perfect.

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

Maybe they just have real fast metabolism.

Or maybe their diet is perfect.

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

One thing is for sure though. Without cardio they do not have a healthy heart.

How is that certain?

Activities that elevate heart rate.. forcing the heart to 'work', will have a pronounced effect on cardiovascular health. Heck, the heart foundation reccomends gardening for pete's sake..

Intense Weight-training.. short rest periods beats gardening anyday.

***Narkissos*** · 10-17-2006, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Bruce000

I know there are no shortcuts but i need some help. Is it necessary to run on the treadmill to loose BF.

no.

Originally Posted by Bruce000

Some guys say a brisk walk will do the trick.I know diet is key. Some tips from you guys will help.
Thanks B

That it is.

Cardio is simply supplementary.

**helium3** · 10-17-2006, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

I do cardio every day. when bulking 30 mins in the AM on empty stomach. When cutting 45-60 mins AM and maybe again PM.

I can't answer why the guys in the gym are still shredded without cardio. Maybe there on clen/t3/ECA,gh,igf the list is endless. Maybe they just have real fast metabolism. One thing is for sure though. Without cardio they do not have a healthy heart.

personally i run 2x-3x per week when cutting and workout 3x sometimes 4.but find with my job humping beer barrels about all day i struggle to get it all in with out over training,you do well to do cardio everyday.what cardio do you do?

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-17-2006, 09:08 AM

The heart foundation dont know jack about excercise so I would take there reccomendations with a pinch of salt. I'll carry on doing cardio and maintaining heart health. I'm pretty positive that doing cardio is healthier than not doing it. It's kind of common sense.
Helium - I do X trainer or ride my bike if weather is good.

***Narkissos*** · 10-17-2006, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001

I'm pretty positive that doing cardio is healthier than not doing it.

That wasn't the debate.

Sure it's debateable that doing cardio is 'healthier' than not doing cardio... Still that does not make not doing cardio 'unhealthy'.

That's the debate.

Show me a cardiovascularly unfit circuit trainer and i'll sell you a 6 legged mouse-pig.

***perfectbeast2001*** · 10-17-2006, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

That wasn't the debate.

Sure it's debateable that doing cardio is 'healthier' than not doing cardio... Still that does not make not doing cardio 'unhealthy'.

That's the debate.

Show me a cardiovascularly unfit circuit trainer and i'll sell you a 6 legged mouse-pig.

please come to my gym. It is full of circuit training slobs. They are overweight and out of breath. Now wheres my mouse pig!