question on my training...

[theboss]

OK...so i have been working out for years and recently started on Test E & Dbol...and have a question...i work out in this split....
Monday: chest/triceps/shoulders
Tues: back & bi's
wed: legs
and then do it again...with Sundays off...

my question is i can hardly do any shoulder excersises after working my chest..my shoulders have such a pump its hard to lift my arms over my head...and I often feel like my chest could use more work....

do you think i should do shoulders 1st...then triceps...then chest to fatigue the other muscles?

[Mesomorphyl]

wrong forum.

[theboss]

yeah...i posted in the training forum but was hoping for:

a) quicker responses
b) responses from others on steroids

[Mesomorphyl]

k...

Do chest first. It is a larger muscle group and is hit with a compounding movement(for the most part)... I do almost the same split. I found the same thing because my tri's were giving out, so I put shoulders on leg day... but you will have to skip a day before hitting chest/tris again.

[theboss]

well that is what i am doing now...but like i said i think its my shoulders doing most of the work and after all chest excersises my shoulders are almost useless

[HighandWide]

Yeah mine looks similar too....I dtry to work opposite muscle groups together

Monday: Chest/Back/Bi/Tri
Tuesday: Legs/Shoulder/Wrist Flexors
Wednesday: Core Conditioning
Thursday:Chest/Back/Bi/Tri
Friday: Legs/Shoulder/Wrist Flexors

[Mesomorphyl]

well that is what i am doing now...but like i said i think its my shoulders doing most of the work and after all chest excersises my shoulders are almost useless

It cant be what you are doing now you said you were doing them in the same workout... I said pull shoulders into leg day.

Second, if your shoulders are doing most of the work look into technique cause you fukkin your workouts up.

[theboss]

i guess i read your reply wrong...
i am not saying they are doing most of the work...they just feel more pumped than my chest does after...so i think it needs more

[DSM4Life]

OK...so i have been working out for years and recently started on Test E & Dbol...and have a question...i work out in this split....
Monday: chest/triceps/shoulders
Tues: back & bi's
wed: legs
and then do it again...with Sundays off...

my question is i can hardly do any shoulder excersises after working my chest..my shoulders have such a pump its hard to lift my arms over my head...and I often feel like my chest could use more work....

do you think i should do shoulders 1st...then triceps...then chest to fatigue the other muscles?

Why not try and split them up more ?

Just add another day , Ex.
S - off
M- chest tri
T - off
W - back/bi
R - legs /abs
F- shoulders
S- off

[Mesomorphyl]

i think its my shoulders doing most of the work and after all chest excersises my shoulders are almost useless

i am not saying they are doing most of the work...they just feel more pumped than my chest does after...so i think it needs more

No if after chest your shoulders are more pumped it is technique. You should look for proper lifting techniques in the training forum.

[theboss]

yeah...i think maybe i am putting on to much weight too fast

[Bigmax]

Bro,that wouldnt be a reason you cant do shoulders after chest...

[Mesomorphyl]

yeah...i think maybe i am putting on to much weight too fast

or you are just trying to lift heavy instead of right; form.

[theboss]

Bro,that wouldnt be a reason you cant do shoulders after chest...

????

[JohnboyF]

heavy chest workouts indirectly workout your shoulders

[theboss]

heavy chest workouts indirectly workout your shoulders

i know but i need to target the chest more