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    Gain And Lose?

    What is the best overall way to lose body fat and gain muscle at the same time? Right now i do 10 min on treadmill at 7mph each day 5 times a week along with these splits. MON--Chest,
    flat bench db 3 sets,8-10 reps
    cable flys 3 sets,8-10 reps
    incline db press 3 sets,8-10 reps
    decline db flys 3 sets,8-10 reps
    Tri's,
    Cable push-downs 3 sets,8-10 reps
    dips 3 sets,8-10 reps
    skull-crushers 3 sets,8-10 reps
    Cardio

    TUE--Abs
    Cardio

    WED--Back,
    Barbell bentover rows 3 sets,8-10 reps
    single arm db rows 3 sets,8-10 reps
    wide grip overhand pull-ups 3 sets,8-10 reps
    cable rows 3 sets,8-10 reps
    Bi's,
    E-z bar standing curls 3 sets,8-10 reps
    cable rope hammer curls 3 sets,8-10 reps
    single arm db curls 3 sets,8-10 reps
    Cardio

    THUR--Shoulder's,
    Lateral side raises 3 sets,8-10 reps
    Front raises 3 sets,8-10 reps
    db shoulder presses 3 sets,8-10 reps
    rear lat raises 3 sets,8-10 reps
    shrugs 3 sets,8-10 reps
    Legs,
    Cardio

    FRI--Abs
    Cardio

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    Cardio and diet,

    You will need to up the cardio to at least 30 mins a session. It takes awhile for the body to start fully burning fat during the onset of exercise. Also you need to exercise at an intesity of 60-70% of your max heart rate to burn a higher percentage of fat vs that of sugars.

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    yea but wont that constrict muscle gains?

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    i agree 100% with musclescience, the thing is it doesnt matter how fast you go on a treadmill its all about heart rate and if you are doing 60-70% of your max heart rate you will be brning the muscle instead of fat

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    how do you know your heartrate while your woking out

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    most cardio machines have heart rate monitors on them or you can buy a heart rate monitor such as a polar heart rate monitor, and its basically a watch that you wear and a band that goes around your chest they are more accurate then the monitors on treadmills or bikes but also pretty expensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjetsfan86
    if you are doing 60-70% of your max heart rate you will be brning the muscle instead of fat
    That's the "fat burning zone"... did you mean above 60-70%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by defend79
    how do you know your heartrate while your woking out
    You can take your pulse at your carotid artery in your neck for 10 seconds and multiply by 6..

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    #1. Unless you didnt bother to post your leg routine you need to do legs and prb on there own day.

    #2. Its pretty much impossiable to lose bf% at the same time while gaining muscle, Now I believe you can lose excess Bf% while gaining muscle but it gets to a point where the best you could do is maintain your mass while you whittle yourself down to X%,

    Right now what im doing is trying to get down to like 10% or so and Im not trying to gain muscle, im happy for now, so I eat a typicall "Lean Bulk" diet and just do 15-20 min cardio PWO. Its working for me but im not trying to get ready for a show or anything that extreme.

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    If you get your heartrate up into the "fat-burning-zone" within the first 5 minutes of cardio, thats when you'll start burining fat. There is no minimum amount of time that the body needs. However, for any measurable results, your heartrate needs to be in this "zone" for 20-40 minutes.

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