Working Back and Chest on same day??

[TheBorch]

I have looked all over this board and it really doesn't look like anyone works back & chest on the same day? Any specific reason for this? Would anybody suggest this or would it just be too much strain working both those groups on the same day?

[ckyass]

if ur on some gear i dont see why not. But i cant handle doing them both together. I enjoy concentrating on one muscle group each time i lift. PLUS there both bigger body parts, just seems like overkill.

[TheBorch]

Nope not on anything other than IDS Sostonol 250, just started that tuesday. Any suggestions on what to work with chest OTHER than Bi and Tri?? (done that already) i was possibly thinking shoulders?

If i were to do shoulders would i go the route as if i was lifting triceps with chest, that being maybe only 2-3 exercises??

Any help or suggestions appreciated

[ckyass]

why cant u just train chest alone? u running on a tight schedule/

[ecto9]

I like doing chest and back on same day with about 12 sets for each body part. That usually lasts me about 1hr 15min of so.

[TheBorch]

yeah im running a tight schedule with a 4 day split

[ckyass]

do chest/tri, back bi, legs, shoulders, REST

[TheBorch]

do chest/tri, back bi, legs, shoulders, REST

ya that was the split i just got done, i wanted to switch things up for a couple weeks now and hit the muscle groups differently

[Big]

I like to do back with bi's because of the pulling motions, and chest with tri's because of the pushing motions, but I'm all for shaking things up every once in a while just for something different.

[-DedicateD-]

on my second half of Ironman HIT workout i work chest, back width, back thickness, shoulders and traps in the same day

1 exercise 3 working sets

[dwaynewade]

I like 3 day splits... just because in a year you'll have worked any muscle almost twice as much=more growth... 3 on 1 off or 6 workouts in 8 days... as far as chest and back... there are multiple reasons why not to- they are the 2 biggest muscle groups in your upper body, unless supersetted you will pre-fatigue your antagonist muscles before working them, time is also not in your favor if you are looking to thoroughly blast any of the two. I like Sh with Ch and i add tri's to the mix, Back with bi's and forearms, and legs.

there are sooooo many ways of mixing up intensity, volume, ballistic training styles that makes everything so relative to what your goals are...

[TheBorch]

alright guys thanks for your suggestions and help!

[ACAZORES]

I dont like to train tris after chest and bis after back cause they are not fresh and i wont give 100 percent,

[dupa95]

I dont like to train tris after chest and bis after back cause they are not fresh and i wont give 100 percent,

I would say this is incorrect. Your tris would be warmed up and require less. same on the back and bicept. But eveyone is differeent you need to find what maximizes for you.

[yungfaceb3]

i just recently began training chest and back together again. It works great because both muscles are interdependent on each other and you will never obtain a fully developed chest until you build up your lats. Arnold Schwarzenegger was a big advocate of training chest and back and he always trained like this. I use a routine similar to that of arnold in which I start off my wrkout by supersetting my bench presses with wide grip chins and then superset incline dumbell presses with close grip chins. I then proceed to do dumbell flyes, and then parallel dips. Then I begin back thickness training with T-bar rows...then barbell rows...then i finish with seated cable rows supersetted with either dumbell pullovers or cable crossovers. Every third chest/back workout....i will not superset them with each other and forget my usual routine and rather will go as heavy as possible for 4-6 reps and/or use ballistic training for my chest...and then I will (sometimes after a several minute break) start training my back in the same way...sometimes starting with deadlifts and going heavy..then heavy barbell rows using a power move technique and finishing with a superset of close/wide grip chins. by training my back like so i hit it hard, heavy, and fast..making sure not to use my hevay chest training as reason to bullshit.

[Renesis]

I train back and chest on the same day works for me.
Dupa actually it is pretty accurate, I know when I do chest I can't push down 150lbs with my tris for reps. Yet on tri day I can do it for reps of 8 same with bis.

[TheBorch]

well with tomorow being monday i am gunna give chest/back a shot, first time doing this split so i'll see how it goes!

[Mogamedogz]

I never Train Back/Bi's or Chest/Tri's... It's too easy to over work your arms (IMO).

[TheBorch]

well just got back and im tired as a dog. i did supersets of Bench/Lat pulldowns, Incline/seated row, DB Flys/lower back ext, and INC Flys/Lower back pulldowns. 3 sets each for a bout 10-12 reps each followed by 30 minutes on the eliptical.

I think i liked the exercise, moved through it pretty quick, didnt feel GREAT pumps though...im taking Vyo-Tech's Nitrobolics but i think its crap i've been on it for about 2 weeks and i might just toss it and switch to NO-Shotgun or NO-Xplode!

[Ajc330]

I would say this is incorrect. Your tris would be warmed up and require less. same on the back and bicept. But eveyone is differeent you need to find what maximizes for you.

i'd say you are incorrect sir

[IronReload04]

if i was a medium or high volume trainer, no, i wouldnt do it

but if i was a HIT guy, or dc guy, or whatever, yes, it works for many guys

[qualityclrk1]

i'm a firm believer in the "push/pull" concept....i lift THREE or maybe four times a week, doing all my "pushing" muscles on one day (chest, tri's), day off, then all my pulls (bi's, back, lats), day off, then legs....i suppose you could throw in another day for a**ominals or whatever you need, but don't work the same muscle group repeatedly, muscle grows in bed- not @ the gym...

[briancb1]

guys.... news flash! all of it works! What doesn't work is having the same routine for 12 months. You all need to switch it up, and im sure you all have your favorites but its all good. Keep things fresh and thats really the key.

[godkilla]

tried back and chest a couple times and didnt like it. when i did chest first i felt my back workout suffered and vise versa.

[yungfaceb3]

yeah..the biggest problem with training chest and back together is sometimes and with most people OFTEN times one or both of the muscle groups suffer due to lack of energy and isolation. When i train chest and back together and I always give it my all for chest.but know i still have back to do and don't ever bullshyt my back. I usually superset my bench presses and incline presses with wide grip and close grip pulldowns...then do my dumbell flyes and parallel dips before I do my t-bar/barbell rows..and then I finish with a superset that hits them both like cable crossovers ss w/ cable rows or something like that. But on really heavy days i do not superset but do chect first then back. If i train my back first..my chest workout intensity/strength/endurance will suffer..but training chest first has little to no effect on my back workout and my chest needs more attention anyways so i train chest first..it varies 4 everyone though.