Overtraining? Really?

[AnavarX]

I dont think I have over trainning syndrome simply because I show none of the signs Ive researched;however I might be doing too much idk you decide

Monday: (Chest, Biceps)-
Machine Bench Press (gr iso)(4-5sets x 8,8,6,6,6)last 1 of last 2set(negative)
weighted pull-ups (4 setsx 7,7,10,12) (7reps-50lbs on feet; 10,12-20lbs on feet)- I also hold the last one half way down on each set
Cable Flies(4 setsx 8,8,6,6) (8reps-80lbs progressin to 110lbs on each arm)
Front Cable Curls(4 setsx8,8,6,6) 3 negative on last set
Isolated One Arm Curls (belt machine)(4 setsx 8,8,6,6) Increse weight when decrease reps
- 2 chest workouts, 3 bicep, then 2 obliques

Tuesday: (running and core) 2miles
weighted situps(4sets of 8),
leg lifts 40reps of 4 sets then hold at the end of each set with a 25lb weight plate until failure
-Running, 2 core ab workouts

Wednesday: ( Triceps, Shoulders)- Smith Bench Press(4 sets),
Belt Pull downs(4 sets x 8,8,6,6),
Cable Hammers(3-4sets x 8),
Cable Skull Crushers(4 sets x 8),
and weightless dips(4 sets x 8),
with a machine military(4 sets x 8,8,6,6),
then plate raises(3 sets x 8) 45lb plate
-4triceps , 2shoulder, then 2 core ab workouts

Thursday: (running 2-4miles, back, lats, traps, then core abs)
2-4miles,
pull downs (cable with bar from over head to chest), 4sets x 8,8,6,6
pulling a bar to my chest sitting up(belt machine) 4sets x 8,8,6,6
shrugs(3 sets x 8),
then cable situps(4sets x 8),
and straightleg deadlift (3sets x 8) -
2 lat workouts, 1 trap, and 1 back, then 2 obliques

Friday: ( Quads, Hams, and Groin) – Smith Press Squats(4 sets x 8,8,6,6),
Leg Press(4 x 8 sets),
leg curls( 4 x 8 sets)
leg extension(4sets x 8)
Cable Leg pullins? ( Pull the cable inside to work groin)(4 sets x 8)
scissors(4 sets x 20reps)
-3quad workouts, 2 hams, 2 groin

Saturday: SLEEP IN and Homework

Sunday:maybe mow lawn, sleep, rest, homework?

Extra Details

Mile: 6: 08
1.5mile 9:57
2mile 13:37
5mile 38:03

Smith Bench- I got up from 2 45's and a 10 on each side to 3 45's.(most)
I did free weights during christmas at my gym also
Machine Bench Press (gr-iso)- I do 5 45's on each side (10 total) and a 10lb plate (most)
Squat Smith- 4 45's on each side and a 10 (most)
Leg Press - 9 45's on each side (most ive done this year) Im getin back up to 10 hopefully
Leg Extension- I usually get up to as much as I can fit plus my friend pushing ( 8 45's + however much he pushes)

Resting Info

I get about 7-8hrs of sleep and thats pretty good for a college student!
Is this too much?
What would you cut out?

My Opinion on machines
Oh and yes machines are BS, I hate them, I sneak into the football weightroom as much as I can but get kicked out cuz non-football and bball players arent supposed to be in there. And for who knows why they wont let us have free weights in the gym? Sued ? IDK! but im talking to the dean sooner or later about using the free weights HOWEVER just look at the workout...I do what I can and if its working me and im sore than its good enough isnt it? waht r ur thoughts?

Im on a split workout..idk can imagine it too mcuh cuz in football we'd lift twice a day and an hour to each muscle group seems fine to me or am i wrong? I do 30mins for abs too.
I have a curl bar in my room that im not supposed to have lol but im gettin weights this summer that im not supposed to have either

What do u think?
Please dont be rude about it, cuz ive been workin out since 7th grade, and doing 2 workouts a day (morning then after school) since 9th and im a freshmen in college

[rickrick55]

i think you need to focus more on the bigger muscles (shoulders chest back in particular) you only have two chest workouts..two shoulders..and i 3 backs (includin your lats) you can keep say 3 bicep exercises etc etc but just realize that when ur lifting back your usually working your bis and when working chest your doing tris..so the more you do with those bigger muscles all the smaller ones will follow!

[AnavarX]

i think you need to focus more on the bigger muscles (shoulders chest back in particular) you only have two chest workouts..two shoulders..and i 3 backs (includin your lats) you can keep say 3 bicep exercises etc etc but just realize that when ur lifting back your usually working your bis and when working chest your doing tris..so the more you do with those bigger muscles all the smaller ones will follow!

Yeah I see where you are coming from, thanks a lot man.
Ill be a while redoin it but Im adding in decline bench on chest

[green22]

how long have you been training and what are you stats???

[MFT81]

Heres a great split:

Mon:Back/Hams/Calves

Tues:Rest

Wens:Shoulders/Bis-Forearms/Core

Thurs:Rest

Friday:Quads/Hams/Calves

Sat:Chest/Tris/Core

Sun:Rest

Try to fit in HIIT style Cardio for 15-25 mins PWO and then do one day of long duration cardio for 45-55 mins at a low intensity (power walk/ RPE of about 5.5) on one of your off days.

[kickinit]

I usually hit monday and tuesday, easy one wensday or none and then hard thrusday and friday, and easy on sat and sun.

Usually after sat and Sun I have alot of energy so why not use it the way I want it. Thats my way take it for what it is..

[AnavarX]

Last time I did bench press-free weights- I did 250lbs 4 times
I did 425lbs on squats 6 times
Curls... 135lbs 5times
Idk since the 7th grade
Ive been doing machines...im just tryin to keep up and as long as im sore, its working for me
My mile is 6:08
My 2 mile is 12:46
my 5 mile is 38:04

[RuhlFreak55]

Heres a great split:

Mon:Back/Hams/Calves

Tues:Rest

Wens:Shoulders/Bis-Forearms/Core

Thurs:Rest

Friday:Quads/Hams/Calves

Sat:Chest/Tris/Core

Sun:Rest

Try to fit in HIIT style Cardio for 15-25 mins PWO and then do one day of long duration cardio for 45-55 mins at a low intensity (power walk/ RPE of about 5.5) on one of your off days.

3 days off a week????? nu uh that ain't right

[ckyass]

yea i couldnt take 3 days off a week, id feel like a fat slob

[ggoyal]

how come bodybuilders spend 3-4 hours in the gym? And what's wierd is when people see a buff guy, they ask " how LONG do you work out?"

[ckyass]

3-4 hours? lol

[MFT81]

3 days off a week????? nu uh that ain't right

Yes, Mike Mentzer said it best. "A 20 inch arm uses a lot more energy to contract than a 12 inch arm" Meaning that as you get bigger and stronger you need more recovery time.

I used to lift 6 days a week but I was 180lbs at 6 ft. Now at 210 or more I need to take almost every other day cause I have to replenish the debt I created the workout prior.

Also for you guys that dont take off enough time, When do you suppose your PNF/CNF gets a break. You have to understand that your Nervous system dosnt give a Fck what your split is or how many days you wait to work legs again. All it knows is that there is trama in the body and it needs rest/food to repair.

SO the next time that you guys reach a plateau, take a look at your split and add in an extra day of rest.

another great M Mentzer quote "You can train Hard or you can train Long but you CANT do both."

[MFT81]

BTW its good to talk to you again Ruhl!!

[ChuckLee]

3 days off a week????? nu uh that ain't right

Why this shouldn't be right???