Back routine - too much? not enough?

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Stats. 6'6" 225 10% BF age 39.
Diet - can post elsewhere if needed - basically like Lean bulk in sticky thread
Goals: lean mass, some strength

First in a series
Is this too much/not enough?

Workout plan is a 4 day split - 1 back/rear delt day per week
Today I did:

Bent over barbell Rows 135x12 185x8 205x6 185x8
Tbar rows (weight=plates) 70x15 115x10 140x8 165x6
Lat Pulldowns 100x15 140x10 160x8 120xfailure
Hammer machine standing row 90x12 115x10 90x failure
(isolated one arm at a time)
Db Shrugs 75x15 85x12 95x10 80x failure
Hammer rear delt machine 90x12 110x8 70xfailure
(straight arm swingback)

Total sets: 22

Notes:
1. I often do Deadlifts but didn't feel up to it today
2. I know I should do true pull-ups - I sometimes do but I am too weak
right now to do more than like 6.
3. Tbar rows: I set it up ghetto with an Olympic bar wedged into the corner of a rack since my Gold's doesn't have a real one
4. Shrugs are weird - I can do more weight or even less and still feel exhausted but form is key right?, I don't know whether to go as heavy as possible. Again my Gold's heaviest db's are 100lbs.

Unless I happen to be draggin ass that day I work out with hella intensity. The problem is I think I used to overdo it all the time, so cutting back on volume.

I guess I'm wondering is it safer to do LESS or MORE if one still wants to gain?
On all my "work sets" (all but the 1st which is a warmup) I try to push for maximum intensity but I don't really go to failure except on the last set. I can predict the answer is going to be something like "How do you feel the next 2 days?"

Thanks for comments.
Any other info I'll try to answer if needed. I ought to post some pics in the next couple of weeks.

[FreeDOOM]

It doesnt look like over kill to me. I usually do 12 sets for lats and middle back, 8 sets for traps and 6-8 for lower back. Some might say thats to much but you have to remember that your back is made up of dozen of muscles many of which pull and flex in different ways. If you are doing BB shrugs you arent working your lats, and if you are dowing rows your not working you traps. I think if you look at most peoples routine you would see that they dont specifically target their lower back. Granted that when you squat or do some dead lifting you are using your back but not targeting it specifically. how can someone squat 500 pounds and not have a strong back? So the only thing I would say about your routine is forget rear delts do them on shoulder day and add lower back, switch to bb shurgs and close grip cable or bb up right rows for traps. I know we use up right row for shoulders but if you go lighter and lift the bar up high towards your nose hold and squeeze I guarantee you will be feeling your traps buring like hell. if you use db for shurgs do them sitting down

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thanks for the advice. I will move rear delts to shoulder day
Also I often, but not today, add in some prone hyperextensions on the "roman chair" to work lower back, holding weights for added weight, so I'll go back to that.
Right now 5hrs post workout my lower back is a little achy cause I went heavy with the bent over rows (cheated just a bit on them)

I'll give that a try with the upright rows on back day. Its a great exercise and I was doing in on shoulder day, holding the bar fairly wide to hit side delts. I know what you mean about raising it over shoulder level and feeling it in the traps.

What I need to work more is my mid and inner back, like the part of the trap that extends down along the sides of the inner back.

I'll go back to BB shrugs since I can add more weight (as I said max dB available is 100lbs where I work out) but I sure wish my gym had one of those "Trap bars" which you stand in the middle of, cause it just doesn't feel as right shrugging with the bar in front of me.

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i know i say this all the time when critiquing a workout, but i would suggest splitting back width and back thickness to separate days. i personally feel that by the end of a back workout, my supporting muscles (bis, forearms, rear delts) are pretty fatigued, making it harder to get anything out of my last couple lifts of the day. i will say that splitting the two is one of the most effective things i've ever done

[tjpatrick1987]

you have a strong back doing bent over rows with 200+

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you have a strong back doing bent over rows with 200+

My back's always been strong, also got a big chest but I can't bench worth a darn.

splitting width and thickness - I might try it. My bi's were pretty fatigued and pumped from this workout.
For width you would do ? wide grip pull ups, lat pulldowns...anything else?

[oneshot]

My back's always been strong, also got a big chest but I can't bench worth a darn.

splitting width and thickness - I might try it. My bi's were pretty fatigued and pumped from this workout.
For width you would do ? wide grip pull ups, lat pulldowns...anything else?

something i would do would be:
width-wide grip pullups OR lat pull downs, straight arm pushdowns, and palms in pulldowns or behind the head pulldowns.

thickness-cable rows, barbell rows (over or under), stiff legged deads, close grip pulldowns, dumbbell rows, etc. i also do traps on back thickness days but that's just preference. for thickness i usually just pick 3 that complement each other as far as hitting it from all angles and grips

[FireGuy]

Strap up, use a false grip and pull with your elbows on all back movements and your biceps should not get fatigued. I see people work back all the time and you can tell their bi's are taking on the majority of the work.