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    BoxerTricks07 is offline Junior Member
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    Critique and help needed please

    Hi guys im going to be starting my cycle soon of test e, methodrostolone, clomid, nolva and maybe arimadex during my cycle.

    Id appreciate it if you could comment/improve on my routine and diet guys

    Meal 1-Carbs/Natural fats
    Meal 2-Proteins
    Meal 3-Proteins
    Meal 4-Carbs/Natural fats
    Gym-Energy drink/Sugar
    Meal 5-Protein


    I havent put what im going to be having in each meal because i am going to rotate my proteins between fish/chicken and beef etc
    and my carbs are going to be rotated and combined with potatoes, pasta, rice etc

    Heres my weekly routine which ill rotate between weeks to give me variety in my workout, please feel free to critique

    Monday- Chest/Arms
    Tuesday- Fitness
    Wednesday- Legs/Abs
    Thursday- Fitness
    Friday- Back/Shoulders
    Saturday-Rest
    Sunday-Rest

    ----OR-----
    Mon-Arms/Chest/Fitness
    Tue-Rest
    Wed-Back/Shoulders/Fitness
    Thur-Rest
    Fri-Legs/Abs/Fitness
    Sat-Rest
    Sun-Rest

    Reps 10, 8, 6
    Sets 3

    Any critism or help would be appreciated, im not an expert so i would be gratefull for experienced heads to help

    cheers

    dave
    Last edited by BoxerTricks07; 10-17-2008 at 09:40 PM.

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    kaberle_15 is offline Anabolic Member
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    I dont think you fully know what you are doing.

    You aren't telling us much with your listed diet and you are only training 3 days a week which looks weak and you are already jumping into AAS. What are your stats? List your diet with the amount of grams of macro's of each meal. How long have you been training? It looks like you are resting more than training right now.

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    i firmly believe in resting eod in order to rest your muscles but thats just my oppinion,
    during my cycle i am going to push it to 5 days per week and rest at weekends but iv spoken to a few people and theyv told me that isnt enough rest

    Id have to disagree with you about my diet

    meal 1, Carbs/in the morning, oatmeal
    meal 2 shake
    meal 3 chicken/lean beef/tuna(including natural fat) with veg
    WORKOUT--sugar
    Meal 4 PWO nutrition
    meal 5 Shake

    Carbs=energy
    Proteins=Muscle

    im going to increase my carb and protein intake on my cycle as obviously ill need more intake with my muscle gains
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    Monday- Chest/Arms
    Tuesday- Fitness
    Wednesday- Legs/Abs
    Thursday- Fitness
    Friday- Back/Shoulders
    Saturday-Rest
    Sunday-Rest

    I would say this workout is MOST days?

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    Dont take that the wrong way because i do want help refining my workout and diet, its just iv been doing boxing for a long time now, before i started getting into weights and iv always had a pretty good idea of protein and carb intake

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    Having so many protein shakes and neglecting real food is not a good diet. I assume your "fitness" days are cardio but you are only lifting 3 days a week and 24 reps per exercise which is not enough imo.

    How many grams of protein are you taking in each day without the shakes? What are your stats?

    You dont need to rest your entire body eod if you are only working 2 muscle groups 3 days a week. When using aas 2 days a week of rest is plenty, considering aas helps quickly repair your muscles.
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    I understand what your saying but i will only be completely resting at the weekends
    I personally think by training the same muscle groups too many times during the week will result in burnout??

    im only having a protein shake in the morning and one after my workout,
    yes your right "fitness" is cardio involving, treadmill, bike, hike, machine, boxing etc

    Im currently on 1.5grms of protein per pound but when i go on my cycle ill increase that to 2grms maybe 2.5grms per pound of body weight to aid my muscle growth, without looking at my files i cant workout my protein intake perday but approx its around 40-50grms, some might say thats a little too much but it seems to work??

    I have always worked 2 muscle groups per session to combine with eachother, i think arms and chest go well, like back and shoulders, i might decide to go with

    Mon-Arms,Chest,Cardio
    Tue-Shoulders,Back,Cardio
    Wed-Legs, Abs, Cardio
    Thu-Arms,Chest,Cardio
    Fri-Shoulders,Back,Cardio
    Sat-REST
    Sun-REST

    I try and change my workout, increase weight every week slightly and occassionally reps so i dont get stuck in a rut, i just want to find the best way for gains to maximize my 3 month cycle

    what do you reckon mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaberle_15 View Post
    Having so many protein shakes and neglecting real food is not a good diet. I assume your "fitness" days are cardio but you are only lifting 3 days a week and 24 reps per exercise which is not enough imo.

    How many grams of protein are you taking in each day without the shakes? What are your stats?

    You dont need to rest your entire body eod if you are only working 2 muscle groups 3 days a week. When using aas 2 days a week of rest is plenty, considering aas helps quickly repair your muscles.
    100% agree. Listen to the man

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    yeah me too, but i thought 2 shakes for 2 meals wasnt over doing it?

    And the 5 day aweek program is only resting 2 days

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    I believe it is every 3 days you should take a day off from weightlifting. someone correct me if i am wrong. so like this:

    mon- chest/tri
    tues- shoulders/abs
    weds- back/biceps
    thurs- day off- cardio
    fri- legs/ abs


    i dunno. sat and sun off is rough. you should be able to workout out more though if on the juice i would think.

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    yeah thats what i was thinking but also i dont want to burn out and plus the more rest the more growth so i personally think you need to balance it out a little, i mean i dont want to get burnout and wreck my cycle but on the other hand i want to maximise my muscle growth during the cycle

    heres what im thinking

    Mon-Back/Shoulders/Cardio=Rowing/cycling
    Tue-Arms/Chest/Cardio=Jeet Kune Do
    Wed-Legs/Abs/Cardio=Boxing(inc treadmill)
    Thu-Back/Shoulders/Cardio=JKD
    Fri-Arms/Chest/Abs
    Sat-Rest
    Sun-Rest

    Please feel free to tell me WHERE im going wrong lads and what youd change etc

    Also on my bulking cycle im thinking 3 sets ALWAYS of 6,8,10 reps, then each week gradually increase reps 8,9,10, etc and increase weight each week so im lifting more and more during my cycle?

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