Going to complete failure!

**T.STEEL** · 11-24-2008, 10:53 PM

Do you guys think going to complete failure on every single set and exercise you do is necessary when on steroids ? Right now i do one or two sets to failure per muscle group, do you think there should be more sets to failure when on a cycle?

**kaberle_15** · 11-24-2008, 10:55 PM

No it is not necessary.

**Ronnie Rowland** · 11-25-2008, 09:54 PM

If you are power-lifting I would say no but for bodybuilding I would take each work set to good failure-"the point you cannot get another good rep on your own without sacrificing form or causing injury".

**Phate** · 11-25-2008, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by T.STEEL

Do you guys think going to complete failure on every single set and exercise you do is necessary when on steroids? Right now i do one or two sets to failure per muscle group, do you think there should be more sets to failure when on a cycle?

it can actually be detrimental as going to complete failure on every set can cause the release of cortisol(hormone that initiates breakdown of muscle tissue for energy)

**nickbcd** · 11-25-2008, 10:38 PM

Never heard about what phate said but i was under the impression that you should always go to complete failure, can you give us a linky Phate to read up more about it?

**Phate** · 11-25-2008, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by nickbcd

Never heard about what phate said but i was under the impression that you should always go to complete failure, can you give us a linky Phate to read up more about it?

i knew somebody was gonna ask for that, i'll have to go find it, it was in one of the 50 books i've read in the last 6 months on lifting, but i'll try

**Older lifter** · 11-26-2008, 01:55 AM

I am only talking from what i have tried ok,
While on cycle i worked a 1 day on 1 day off program where each set was taken to failure with the weight going down a bit on each set to maintain the rep range. It worked very well but at the end of the cycle i did feel the body needed a break from that type of lifting, and once again moved to failing only on the last set..

For my next cycle i plan the same type of workout thou.......

Oh just to add, i felt that the 1 on 1 off was needed for recovery as the lifting was very intensive and heavy, but age might come into it a bit,, i'm 44

**T.STEEL** · 11-26-2008, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Older lifter

I am only talking from what i have tried ok,
While on cycle i worked a 1 day on 1 day off program where each set was taken to failure with the weight going down a bit on each set to maintain the rep range. It worked very well but at the end of the cycle i did feel the body needed a break from that type of lifting, and once again moved to failing only on the last set..

For my next cycle i plan the same type of workout thou.......

Oh just to add, i felt that the 1 on 1 off was needed for recovery as the lifting was very intensive and heavy, but age might come into it a bit,, i'm 44

That sounds good. I am doing that right now actually what you described. Did you make good gains on your cycle doing this? how was your diet?

**redz** · 11-26-2008, 01:45 PM

I never go to failure, you are really just risking injury better to break it up into sets.

**Older lifter** · 11-26-2008, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by T.STEEL

That sounds good. I am doing that right now actually what you described. Did you make good gains on your cycle doing this? how was your diet?

Yeah my gains were good, i used a bulking diet, good meals with what's needed every 2-2.5 hours.

I am going to do it again next time as well.

Good luck man, but monitor how your body responds, everyone is different

**sizerp** · 11-26-2008, 11:46 PM

I go to failure. Phate you get that linky?

**AdamGH** · 11-27-2008, 12:13 AM

why failure? just do 8-10 reps. if that is to easy to do, you aren't lifting heavy enough. last rep should always be a bitch with good form.

**Phate** · 11-27-2008, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by sizerp

I go to failure. Phate you get that linky?

still searching bro, i've gone through about 10 books so far, it wont be a link though, i'll probably have to type out the study

**sizerp** · 11-27-2008, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

still searching bro, i've gone through about 10 books so far, it wont be a link though, i'll probably have to type out the study

Thanks!

Originally Posted by AdamGH

why failure? just do 8-10 reps. if that is to easy to do, you aren't lifting heavy enough. last rep should always be a bitch with good form.

True. I guess I'll restate then. If I am using moderately heavy weights, I'll go to failure. On heavy days I can basically feel when the last rep up is last rep up.