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    Going to complete failure!

    Do you guys think going to complete failure on every single set and exercise you do is necessary when on steroids ? Right now i do one or two sets to failure per muscle group, do you think there should be more sets to failure when on a cycle?

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    No it is not necessary.

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    If you are power-lifting I would say no but for bodybuilding I would take each work set to good failure-"the point you cannot get another good rep on your own without sacrificing form or causing injury".

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.STEEL View Post
    Do you guys think going to complete failure on every single set and exercise you do is necessary when on steroids? Right now i do one or two sets to failure per muscle group, do you think there should be more sets to failure when on a cycle?
    it can actually be detrimental as going to complete failure on every set can cause the release of cortisol(hormone that initiates breakdown of muscle tissue for energy)

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    Never heard about what phate said but i was under the impression that you should always go to complete failure, can you give us a linky Phate to read up more about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickbcd View Post
    Never heard about what phate said but i was under the impression that you should always go to complete failure, can you give us a linky Phate to read up more about it?
    i knew somebody was gonna ask for that, i'll have to go find it, it was in one of the 50 books i've read in the last 6 months on lifting, but i'll try

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    I am only talking from what i have tried ok,
    While on cycle i worked a 1 day on 1 day off program where each set was taken to failure with the weight going down a bit on each set to maintain the rep range. It worked very well but at the end of the cycle i did feel the body needed a break from that type of lifting, and once again moved to failing only on the last set..

    For my next cycle i plan the same type of workout thou.......

    Oh just to add, i felt that the 1 on 1 off was needed for recovery as the lifting was very intensive and heavy, but age might come into it a bit,, i'm 44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Older lifter View Post
    I am only talking from what i have tried ok,
    While on cycle i worked a 1 day on 1 day off program where each set was taken to failure with the weight going down a bit on each set to maintain the rep range. It worked very well but at the end of the cycle i did feel the body needed a break from that type of lifting, and once again moved to failing only on the last set..

    For my next cycle i plan the same type of workout thou.......

    Oh just to add, i felt that the 1 on 1 off was needed for recovery as the lifting was very intensive and heavy, but age might come into it a bit,, i'm 44

    That sounds good. I am doing that right now actually what you described. Did you make good gains on your cycle doing this? how was your diet?

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    I never go to failure, you are really just risking injury better to break it up into sets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.STEEL View Post
    That sounds good. I am doing that right now actually what you described. Did you make good gains on your cycle doing this? how was your diet?
    Yeah my gains were good, i used a bulking diet, good meals with what's needed every 2-2.5 hours.

    I am going to do it again next time as well.

    Good luck man, but monitor how your body responds, everyone is different

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    I go to failure. Phate you get that linky?

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    why failure? just do 8-10 reps. if that is to easy to do, you aren't lifting heavy enough. last rep should always be a bitch with good form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sizerp View Post
    I go to failure. Phate you get that linky?
    still searching bro, i've gone through about 10 books so far, it wont be a link though, i'll probably have to type out the study

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    still searching bro, i've gone through about 10 books so far, it wont be a link though, i'll probably have to type out the study
    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGH View Post
    why failure? just do 8-10 reps. if that is to easy to do, you aren't lifting heavy enough. last rep should always be a bitch with good form.
    True. I guess I'll restate then. If I am using moderately heavy weights, I'll go to failure. On heavy days I can basically feel when the last rep up is last rep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    I never go to failure, you are really just risking injury better to break it up into sets.
    I agree..Do more sets while aiming to avoid absolute gut bursting failure. Hitting all out failure all the time causes injury.

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