wanting it big!

[lunchman]

hey guys have been training on and off for about 2.5 yrs. have no been training solid for 3 months or so but my chest has lagged quite a bit throughout most of my training. can you guys give me any advice on building nice thick chiseled chest.
thanks

[T-MOS]

Welcome to AR

best advice is to quit with the ON and OFF training. stay consistent for many many years as muscle thickness and maturity comes with time. Growth is a marathon, not a sprint

dedication and consistency, are key

[lunchman]

yea i know haha, stupid chop and changing from gyms and jobs was hard. but now am back into it, thanks for your advice already knew growth is the long hawl, but just one thing i find hardest is selecting good exercises for my chest, i want to work it hard and from multiple angles to get full growth. But i guess like u said doing the whole on and off thing wouldnt be helping with my gains.

[jbm]

What's your current chest workout?

[T-MOS]

do you work your legs?

the stronger the legs the stronger the rest of your body will get naturally

what does your chest routine look like now? do you do dumbell presses?

[lunchman]

well i worked it out yesterday includes:
barbell bench press: 4sets
incline DB press:4sets
Flat hammer press:2 sets
Incline hammer press:2sets
decline DB flys:3sets
Pek deck flys:3sets

with the decline flys i just threw them in so i covered all areas of the chest. i feel i need to do quite a bit to exhaust my chest like a wide variety of exercises, i just think my chest is quite genetically stubborn which sucks big time cause its the muscle i want to build up really big. and yes i do legs havent always but have been over the last 3 months of my training.

[T-MOS]

well i worked it out yesterday includes:
barbell bench press: 4sets
incline DB press:4sets
Flat hammer press:2 sets
Incline hammer press:2sets
decline DB flys:3sets
Pek deck flys:3sets

with the decline flys i just threw them in so i covered all areas of the chest. i feel i need to do quite a bit to exhaust my chest like a wide variety of exercises, i just think my chest is quite genetically stubborn which sucks big time cause its the muscle i want to build up really big. and yes i do legs havent always but have been over the last 3 months of my training.

OK, well give it time, FORM plays a lot into it too. I watched Quincy Taylor's DVD the other day and got a few tips on my own form and it helped me. So if you can get your form critiqued and only train chest once a week, that may help

[jbm]

You are over training big time!

[TRT,MAN]

hay how many reps are you doing.

[lunchman]

OK, well give it time, FORM plays a lot into it too. I watched Quincy Taylor's DVD the other day and got a few tips on my own form and it helped me. So if you can get your form critiqued and only train chest once a week, that may help

ok sweet, yea my form is defs in check thats all i have always focused on when i train ever since i started its defs worked for the rest of my body just not the chest. ill have to see if i can get my hands on some dvd's.

[lunchman]

reps 8-12 if i reach 12 ill up the wait if i fail at around 6 ill drop it down to get reps up higher. also i think my rest between sets may have an effect on my performance iam resting for about 1min - 1min 15 thinking maybe that is to short not letting my atp to restore.

[jbm]

currently this is what I do for chest 1 warm up set very light high reps then 3 sets each 12-10-8 reps of bench press, flat flys, incline dumbell press and pull overs... it's working fine!

[TRT,MAN]

reps 8-12 if i reach 12 ill up the wait if i fail at around 6 ill drop it down to get reps up higher. also i think my rest between sets may have an effect on my performance iam resting for about 1min - 1min 15 thinking maybe that is to short not letting my atp to restore.

your reps look good, but ya if your trying to gain mass i would res a little longer. at a minute you muscle is not getting enough recovery time. more like conditioning. try resting for like 2minutes then you will be able to hit it harder.

[lunchman]

yea people have said also keep it simple and cut it down, but also iam only training my chest every 7days and i eat very well so my recovery is quite good after a workout like what i listed.

[lunchman]

your reps look good, but ya if your trying to gain mass i would res a little longer. at a minute you muscle is not getting enough recovery time. more like conditioning. try resting for like 2minutes then you will be able to hit it harder.

ok awesome thanks man, think that is a major factor. also having that shorter rest period i can fit in alot more in my workout you know thats why i was doing that.

[eatrainrest]

cut the sets big time, train at 100 percent intensity and keep your BPM around 100

[TRT,MAN]

more is always not good . you will hear that time and time again.

[lunchman]

what should i be cutting my sets down to totaly of what? e.g?

[lunchman]

yea its true i do, do u think cutting it down to three more basic exercises like Barbell bench, incline Db press, Db fly or cable crossover and a pullover? any decline you reckon? to bring out line along bottom of chest... if thats true

[eatrainrest]

well there are many factors..refer to this thread and just read whats been asked/answered and the links in the first post and youll know alot more than you do now...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=385368

[Tigershark]

Welcome.

[lunchman]

Thanks tigershark

[JAZZBBCC]

You are over training big time!

I agree! back off on the amount a little. work in either decline or heavy dips and stay clear of the isolation moves. Heavier weights means bigger muscles! good luck!

[lunchman]

I agree! back off on the amount a little. work in either decline or heavy dips and stay clear of the isolation moves. Heavier weights means bigger muscles! good luck!

awesome thanks man ill back it of stick with 3-4 basic movements.