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  1. 06-25-2009, 10:35 PM #1
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    Talking Arnold Presses

    Ok so i just wanted to post here a shoulder exercise that i have just started and its called the arnold press, some of you may have heard of it and some may have not ...it is one of the most intense shoulder exercises i have done ....start out sitting down on bench with back straight and have dumbell in each hand , a good weight , maybe the same weight as you use to bicep curl but whatever you feel comfortable with , ok dumbells are hanging in hands , curl the bars up as if your bicep curling , hold it there so your forearms are vertical and your palms are facing your face ..now press up overhead to do a shoulder press but as you do rotate hands so they are facing away from your face , squeeze at the top and then lower arms so palms are facing you again , and only go back to the vertical position with your forearms ...repeat

    i generally press 50lbs dumbells and go to 10 to 12 reps , i gaurantee you will feel the burn ....

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    congrats.. why do i want to feel the burn??? I'm confused, if my goal is to build strength and muscle size, why would i want the body to convert muscle for energy, using that for energy source??

    It's good form for sure, but a lower rep range with heavier weights would suit my needs better..
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    congrats.. why do i want to feel the burn??? I'm confused, if my goal is to build strength and muscle size, why would i want the body to convert muscle for energy, using that for energy source??

    It's good form for sure, but a lower rep range with heavier weights would suit my needs better..
    hummmm.... so if it burns when you lift towords the end of the reps, thats bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amcon View Post
    hummmm.... so if it burns when you lift towords the end of the reps, thats bad?
    i think its a good thing ....you know your working the muscle , im not saying do these really quick as if a cardio exercise but with good form you can still feel the burn
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    congrats.. why do i want to feel the burn??? I'm confused, if my goal is to build strength and muscle size, why would i want the body to convert muscle for energy, using that for energy source??

    It's good form for sure, but a lower rep range with heavier weights would suit my needs better..
    that is what i alway thought but spy knows his stuff and read in bold above
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard View Post
    congrats.. why do i want to feel the burn??? I'm confused, if my goal is to build strength and muscle size, why would i want the body to convert muscle for energy, using that for energy source??

    It's good form for sure, but a lower rep range with heavier weights would suit my needs better..

    Silly Rabbit, don't you read Joe Weider's Muscle and Fiction? For years they've preached within the pages of that magazine that you should go for the burn and really pump that muscle up if you want to be build big muscles and be big and strong like all the Weider bodybuilding champs.
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    yes he may do but i tell ya i have got this routine from the man himself ....got it out of the The Arnold Schwarzenegger Encyclopedia Of Modern Bodybuilding , he was doing these but with a bit hevier weight and said exactly the same thing that i quoted ....you should feel the burn with a good weight ...now im going to go with arnolds opinion and no offence to spywizards comment but i look at arnolds shoulders and they arnt small so any advice he has written himself i will take on board
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    Quote Originally Posted by Free Will View Post
    yes he may do but i tell ya i have got this routine from the man himself ....got it out of the The Arnold Schwarzenegger Encyclopedia Of Modern Bodybuilding , he was doing these but with a bit hevier weight and said exactly the same thing that i quoted ....you should feel the burn with a good weight ...now im going to go with arnolds opinion and no offence to spywizards comment but i look at arnolds shoulders and they arnt small so any advice he has written himself i will take on board
    ive read taht myself... very outdated but nonetheless arnold presses are good if done correctly
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    Quote Originally Posted by eatrainrest View Post
    ive read taht myself... very outdated but nonetheless arnold presses are good if done correctly


    thanx ETR , yes i was just trying to state that they are my fave shoulder exercise now , the burn i was referring to isnt a burn as if to say that youv gone for a 10 mile run but a burn on the muscle that has just lifted a good weight with good form , you could call it a burn or call it what you want but it does get hotter and it feels good
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    Quote Originally Posted by eatrainrest View Post
    ive read taht myself... very outdated but nonetheless arnold presses are good if done correctly
    I love the way you say one of the top Body Builders of all time that his advice is outdated LOL were all still humans and all still after the same goal this guy accieved His.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wharton View Post
    I love the way you say one of the top Body Builders of all time that his advice is outdated LOL were all still humans and all still after the same goal this guy accieved His.
    yea his advice 40 years ago is outdated many principles and beliefs have changed drastically you ever heard of genetics too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eatrainrest View Post
    yea his advice 40 years ago is outdated many principles and beliefs have changed drastically you ever heard of genetics too?
    Yes I have. He also training over 4 hours a day? Overtraining? LOL
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    ...buildup of lactic acid is the answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbm View Post
    THATS THE ONE jbm ....good work brother , i love em , just got back from doing shoulders this morning
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    what spy was referring to is with higher reps, also is more build up of lactic acid and can have a pump swell look. ever wonder why doing 20 reps of a weight wil make you appear more pumped and jacked than 1 or 4 reps of a weight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eatrainrest View Post
    what spy was referring to is with higher reps, also is more build up of lactic acid and can have a pump swell look. ever wonder why doing 20 reps of a weight wil make you appear more pumped and jacked than 1 or 4 reps of a weight?
    answer please...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbm View Post
    answer please...
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    Quote Originally Posted by eatrainrest View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbm View Post
    I'm lost too brother...
    its known as the pump swell, associated wiht a build up of lactic acid.. maybe that helps
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhNOcMecei0

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    i think so man , or lactic acid ?? lol ..not 100% sure
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    JBM, you are full of semen
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    never been a fan of that movement myself.
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    Ive got the book aswell, great read and a great help... as for the excersise i dont like it..
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    The OP stated he was using a rep range of 10-12. If that rep range burns muscle for energy than I should look like skinney kenneys old avi by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
    The OP stated he was using a rep range of 10-12. If that rep range burns muscle for energy than I should look like skinney kenneys old avi by now.
    10-12 then he should not be concerned about excessive buildup of lactic acid... i was referring more toward 20-25 rep ranges where some endurance atheletes train at, or the obese as cardiovascular program to deplete shitload of muscle glycogen. resistance training is anaerobic and will use stored muscle glycogen as energy regardless of rep range, how is lactic acid burn muscle for energy?-im confused, i agree wtih you but i think im missing somethign on thsi principle
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    I was only addressing the OP's statement and the rep range he referred to. I know personnally I can work any muscle on my body in the 8-12 range and get an intense burn. To associate this burn with muscle catabolism is not correct. I am sure Spy will eventually weigh in and maybe he can clarify his opinion.
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    well theres been a bit of feedback from this ...and yes enegizer bunny the book is an awsome read , ive read every page front to back , very informative ...and im glad to see some other people agree with me on the fact that you can get a good burn from doing 8-12 reps with good form ....IMO whatever arnold sais is gold ...he wasnt 7 times mr O cos he didnt know what he was talking about
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