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    jcalz5 is offline New Member
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    I just need some help...

    hey guys, Im new to the site and I have found so much information but it seems there is just to much. I am having a few problems and I finally figured I would post and wee what kind of responses I get. Im 20 years old i weigh 187 LBS im 6 feet tall. The first week of september i will be starting a 10 week cycle of Test i will be taking 1cc per week. I will also be taking gold standerd whey Protein along with GNC glutimein and some Creitein i have not chosen yet. I have been lifting for about 4 years right now and have not seen the best results for the effort put in this is the reason I am starting test.

    I understand it is not a miracle worker and I have to put in work, and that is something I am most def willing to do but I am having a problem with a workout routine. It just seems as if there are so many out there and I just do not know what to choose from. I am able to go to the gym 7 days a week if needed. So can someone help me out and give me some ideas for different workout routines for my first cycle? It will be greatly appreciated thanks...

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    sorry i dont mean one cc i have a 10mg vile i guess its m i dont have it in front of me so its one a week... if that helps im new to this as you can tell

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    BF% pct? or how about you post in the aa's Qand A

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcalz5 View Post
    hey guys, Im new to the site and I have found so much information but it seems there is just to much. I am having a few problems and I finally figured I would post and wee what kind of responses I get. Im 20 years old i weigh 187 LBS im 6 feet tall. The first week of september i will be starting a 10 week cycle of Test i will be taking 1cc per week. I will also be taking gold standerd whey Protein along with GNC glutimein and some Creitein i have not chosen yet. I have been lifting for about 4 years right now and have not seen the best results for the effort put in this is the reason I am starting test.

    I understand it is not a miracle worker and I have to put in work, and that is something I am most def willing to do but I am having a problem with a workout routine. It just seems as if there are so many out there and I just do not know what to choose from. I am able to go to the gym 7 days a week if needed. So can someone help me out and give me some ideas for different workout routines for my first cycle? It will be greatly appreciated thanks...
    you could really fk up your hormone system permanently. So really be careful. Your natural test should be high enough for now. IMO, I think you would be better off waiting another 4 years. I know you could easily get over 200lbs in that time on your own. If you do it that way, youll know the gains are permanent.

    What is your workout split now?

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    Are you sure that so far you've done the right training and right dieting. If not, you should think about taking testo. Attention! Gyno isn't nice.

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    ya, i have been dieting correctly taking in a whole bunch of carbs here isa basic break down of what i do.

    Bmr=(13.7X85)+(5 X 180.34) – (6.8 x 20)

    1164.5 + 901.7-136


    4000 calories a day
    420 grams of protein a day

    Meal 1: Pro/Carb

    8 Egg Whites, 1 Scoop Of Whey Protein, 1 cup oatmeal

    50g protein / 54g carbs / 5g fat



    Meal 2: Pro/Fat

    Lean Ground Beef, ¼ cup swiss cheese, green veggies

    55g protein / 2g carbs / 20g fat



    Meal 3: Pro/Carb

    Chicken Breast, 1 and a half cup Brown Rice

    55g protein / 64g carbs / 3g Fat
    **Disclaimer: Meal 3 can be a pro/fat meal if you are ultra sensitive to carb intake.


    Meal 4: Pro/Fat

    2 Cans of Tuna, 1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise, Veggies

    60g protein / 2g carbs / 13g Fat



    Workout


    Meal 5: PWO Nutrition

    2 Scoops Whey Protein

    40g protein / 0g fat



    Meal 6: PPWO

    Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, ½ cup Brown Rice (Measured Uncooked)

    50g protein / 70g carbs / 3g fat



    Meal 7: Pro/Fat

    Lean Protein of your choice(Eggs, Fish, Chicken, Steak, Ground Beef, Whey Protein, Turkey), 2 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
    50g protein / 5g carbs / 18g fat



    Meal 8: Before Bed

    3 Scoops of Whey Protein, 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil

    60g protein / 3g carbs / 21g Fat


    That turns into approximately 420 grams protein, 250 grams Carbs, and 83 grams of fat. This is roughly 3500 calories


    Q: What are some good sources of complex carbohydrates?
    A: Rice, Pasta, Whole Wheat Bread, Yams, Oatmeal


    Eight-Day Training Cycle: One day training, one day rest
    (One day on, one day off)
    Day 1: Chest, biceps
    Bench presses 3 sets 6- 8 reps
    Incline bench presses 2 sets 6- 8 reps
    Dips with added weights 2 sets 8-10 reps
    Barbell curls 3 sets 6-10 reps
    Dumbbell curls 2 sets 6-10 reps
    Day 3: Thighs
    Squats 3 sets 6-10 reps
    Leg presses 2 sets 8-10 reps
    Leg curls 2 sets 8-10 reps
    Day 5: Shoulder, triceps
    Presses behind neck 3 sets 6- 8 reps
    Upright row 2 sets 8-10 reps
    Side laterals 2 sets 8-10 reps
    Lying triceps presses 3 sets 6-10 reps
    Triceps pulley pushdown 2 sets 8-10 reps
    Day 7: Back. calves
    Chins with added weight 3 sets 8-10 reps
    Lat pull to neck 2 sets 8-10 reps
    Barbell bent-over row 2 sets 6-10 reps
    Seated cable row 2 sets 6-10 reps
    Standing calf raise 3 sets 8-12 reps
    Seated calf raise 2 sets 8-12 reps



    I had found this online and have been using it for a while. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcalz5 View Post
    ya, i have been dieting correctly taking in a whole bunch of carbs here isa basic break down of what i do.

    Bmr=(13.7X85)+(5 X 180.34) – (6.8 x 20)

    1164.5 + 901.7-136


    4000 calories a day
    420 grams of protein a dayoverkill

    Meal 1: Pro/Carb

    8 Egg Whites, 1 Scoop Of Whey Protein, 1 cup oatmeal

    50g protein / 54g carbs / 5g fateliminate whey



    Meal 2: Pro/Fat

    Lean Ground Beef, ¼ cup swiss cheese, green veggies

    55g protein / 2g carbs / 20g fat
    better off with leaner turkey and broccoili with EFA


    Meal 3: Pro/Carb

    Chicken Breast, 1 and a half cup Brown Rice
    ok but this looksl iek a better pre workout meal to me

    55g protein / 64g carbs / 3g Fat
    **Disclaimer: Meal 3 can be a pro/fat meal if you are ultra sensitive to carb intake.


    Meal 4: Pro/Fat

    2 Cans of Tuna, 1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise, Veggies

    60g protein / 2g carbs / 13g Fat
    overkill protein.. 1-1.5 cans with EFA *rotated almond, walnut, fish, EVO


    swap this meal with brown rice
    Workout


    Meal 5: PWO Nutrition

    2 Scoops Whey Protein

    40g protein / 0g fat
    i go 3g creatine, 10g BCAA, 50g waxy followed by `1 hour later refeed with low GI carb, protein



    Meal 6: PPWO

    Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, ½ cup Brown Rice (Measured Uncooked)

    50g protein / 70g carbs / 3g fat



    Meal 7: Pro/Fat

    Lean Protein of your choice(Eggs, Fish, Chicken, Steak, Ground Beef, Whey Protein, Turkey), 2 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
    50g protein / 5g carbs / 18g fat



    Meal 8: Before Bed

    3 Scoops of Whey Protein, 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil

    60g protein / 3g carbs / 21g Fat
    no, go slow digesting liek lean beef with added EFA


    That turns into approximately 420 grams protein, 250 grams Carbs, and 83 grams of fat. This is roughly 3500 calories


    Q: What are some good sources of complex carbohydrates?
    A: Rice, Pasta, Whole Wheat Bread, Yams, Oatmeal


    Eight-Day Training Cycle: One day training, one day rest
    (One day on, one day off)
    Day 1: Chest, biceps
    Bench presses 3 sets 6- 8 reps
    Incline bench presses 2 sets 6- 8 reps
    Dips with added weights 2 sets 8-10 reps
    Barbell curls 3 sets 6-10 reps
    Dumbbell curls 2 sets 6-10 reps
    Day 3: Thighs
    Squats 3 sets 6-10 reps
    Leg presses 2 sets 8-10 reps
    Leg curls 2 sets 8-10 reps
    Day 5: Shoulder, triceps
    Presses behind neck 3 sets 6- 8 reps
    Upright row 2 sets 8-10 reps
    Side laterals 2 sets 8-10 reps
    Lying triceps presses 3 sets 6-10 reps
    Triceps pulley pushdown 2 sets 8-10 reps
    Day 7: Back. calves
    Chins with added weight 3 sets 8-10 reps
    Lat pull to neck 2 sets 8-10 reps
    Barbell bent-over row 2 sets 6-10 reps
    Seated cable row 2 sets 6-10 reps
    Standing calf raise 3 sets 8-12 reps
    Seated calf raise 2 sets 8-12 reps



    I had found this online and have been using it for a while. Thanks
    i thought uptop you said it was 4k not its 3.5k? anyway make the changes advised it will be more effective.. swap for leaner meats liek turkey breast

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