shoulder training is on the poor side.

[dangerous dan]

this is my typical shoulder workout.

3 sets of 8 on each.

behind neck press
front delt dumbell press
shrugs

i want to keep the neck press as it hits all those delts, maybe stick somthing in before my shrugs, what do you guys do for a good rear delt workout? would i be okay doing a 12 set work out on my shoulders or is that to many? thats with adding a good rear delt workout in

[CHAP]

Behind the neck presses are great for the front and rear delt

you need to add side laterals DB


And either bent over raises for the rear delt or a michine to deplicate the movement. I find a machine works best for me.

I have had to stop doing so much work on my front delts because they are larger than my side and rear.

[CHAP]

And I do 12. What matters is that yo are not over workin yourself. And no one can tell you this. Its something you have to learn about yourself.

[stpete]

Yea, you should add raises for sure. And i mix up rear delts with dumbells and reverse pec deck.

[dangerous dan]

rite thanks im thinking

behind neck press
front delt dumbell press
side laterals
bent over raises

i think ill switch the shrugs to my back day. thanks lads

[SuperLift]

3x10 Smith Shoulder Press
3x10 Behind neck smith press
3x10 DB shoulder press
3-4x10 Front DB raise
3-4x10 Side DB raise
3-4x10 Rear Delt Upright Row

Give that a shot for a few weeks, then you might have to slow it down.