Training on Juice

[liftw8t]

Hey dont chew me out for this but I just need opinions on this. When on something (Test E):

1) What should your workout look like as far as sets per muscle group:

2) Is overtraining really a concern?

3) Do you still have to keep in mind the basis of your genetics (hard gainer-ecto) and know that your body might take less to breakdown or do you throw all this out the window when on something?

4) What is the best split for growth?

5) Is it bad to do to many compound lifts in a week...example: Squat and Deadlift in the same week

6) Is Smith Machine okay for all powerlifts such as Squat, Bench, Deadlift due to the fact that its safe and provides stability.

Please help with your suggestions

[Gaspari1255]

Hey dont chew me out for this but I just need opinions on this. When on something (Test E):

1) What should your workout look like as far as sets per muscle group:

2) Is overtraining really a concern?

3) Do you still have to keep in mind the basis of your genetics (hard gainer-ecto) and know that your body might take less to breakdown or do you throw all this out the window when on something?

4) What is the best split for growth?

5) Is it bad to do to many compound lifts in a week...example: Squat and Deadlift in the same week

6) Is Smith Machine okay for all powerlifts such as Squat, Bench, Deadlift due to the fact that its safe and provides stability.

Please help with your suggestions

1.) What are your goals?
2.) Absolutely
3.) It depends. Ecto= eat, eat, eat,eat...gear is not gonnna make up for lost calories
4.) You're probably not ready for growth--I've done 4 cycles and never touched it.
5.) No, just spread them to your liking (Seperate chest and shoulders and best as possible, along with back and legs)
6.) Once in a while it's ok, I wouldn't become dependant on it.

[liftw8t]

1.) What are your goals?
2.) Absolutely
3.) It depends. Ecto= eat, eat, eat,eat...gear is not gonnna make up for lost calories
4.) You're probably not ready for growth--I've done 4 cycles and never touched it.
5.) No, just spread them to your liking (Seperate chest and shoulders and best as possible, along with back and legs)
6.) Once in a while it's ok, I wouldn't become dependant on it.

1) Goal is to bulk pack on as much as possible especially upper body

3) Diet is tight and on point but i meant as far as muscle breakdown

4) Sorry didnt mean growth like HGH meant muscle growth what would be the best split for optimal training, rest, muscle growth

6) Just wondering for the stability and risking less injury when going heavy

[Gaspari1255]

1) Goal is to bulk pack on as much as possible especially upper body

3) Diet is tight and on point but i meant as far as muscle breakdown

4) Sorry didnt mean growth like HGH meant muscle growth what would be the best split for optimal training, rest, muscle growth

6) Just wondering for the stability and risking less injury when going heavy

Oh I misunderstood you, my fault. There is no set routine that works for everyone. Ya just gotta try something and see how it works. Here's some of ,my previous routine that I've had success with.

1.)
M: Chest
T: Legs
W: Rest
Th: Back/Biceps/Forearms
F: Shoulders/Traps/Triceps
Sat: Rest

2.)
M: Chest/Biceps
T: Legs
W: Rest
Th: Shoulders/Traps/Forearms
F: Back/Triceps
Sat: Rest
Sun: Repeat

3.)

M: Chest
T: Back
W: Legs
Th: Shoulders/Traps
F: Biceps/Triceps/ Forearms
Sat: Rest
Sun: Rest

.....Just experiment and see what works best for you, switch it up every now and then.
Sun: Repeat

[Tjohn6231]

Oh I misunderstood you, my fault. There is no set routine that works for everyone. Ya just gotta try something and see how it works. Here's some of ,my previous routine that I've had success with.

1.)
M: Chest
T: Legs
W: Rest
Th: Back/Biceps/Forearms
F: Shoulders/Traps/Triceps
Sat: Rest

2.)
M: Chest/Biceps
T: Legs
W: Rest
Th: Shoulders/Traps/Forearms
F: Back/Triceps
Sat: Rest
Sun: Repeat

3.)

M: Chest
T: Back
W: Legs
Th: Shoulders/Traps
F: Biceps/Triceps/ Forearms
Sat: Rest
Sun: Rest

.....Just experiment and see what works best for you, switch it up every now and then.
Sun: Repeat

That looks really good. Ive been doing this lately
mon-chest, biceps
tues-legs
wed- off
thurs-back, traps
fri-shoulders, tri's

[liftw8t]

Oh I misunderstood you, my fault. There is no set routine that works for everyone. Ya just gotta try something and see how it works. Here's some of ,my previous routine that I've had success with.

1.)
M: Chest
T: Legs
W: Rest
Th: Back/Biceps/Forearms
F: Shoulders/Traps/Triceps
Sat: Rest

2.)
M: Chest/Biceps
T: Legs
W: Rest
Th: Shoulders/Traps/Forearms
F: Back/Triceps
Sat: Rest
Sun: Repeat

3.)

M: Chest
T: Back
W: Legs
Th: Shoulders/Traps
F: Biceps/Triceps/ Forearms
Sat: Rest
Sun: Rest

.....Just experiment and see what works best for you, switch it up every now and then.
Sun: Repeat

Yeah I've been doing number 2) so i wasnt sure if it was a good split or not

[Ronnie Rowland]

8-12 work sets done once per week for each muscle group is idea for most people.

[anabolictonic]

Hey dont chew me out for this but I just need opinions on this. When on something (Test E):

1) What should your workout look like as far as sets per muscle group:

2) Is overtraining really a concern?

3) Do you still have to keep in mind the basis of your genetics (hard gainer-ecto) and know that your body might take less to breakdown or do you throw all this out the window when on something?

4) What is the best split for growth?

5) Is it bad to do to many compound lifts in a week...example: Squat and Deadlift in the same week

6) Is Smith Machine okay for all powerlifts such as Squat, Bench, Deadlift due to the fact that its safe and provides stability.

Please help with your suggestions

1. This shouldnt differ to what you have been doing off cycle your body is still going to respond best to what you have discovered works for you.
2. No and Yes. No being not if you havent been overtraining and slightly increase your workload and calories you will most likely be fine. Yes in the fact that go and train legs heavy 3 times a week and bam you will still over train. Two types of overtraining - Muscle wise and CNS wise. Being on gear will minimise the risk of muscle overtraining but its still possible for sure. CNS wise gear doesnt really help out at all so if you do to much heavy work you will overtrain just as easy as not being on gear. IE only do heavy squats deads etc once a week max
3. Refer to answer 1. Also adjust as you work through your cycle if you are finding you are sore for only 4 days in stead of 5 then sure try and take out a rest day. If you find your becoming to sore then add the rest day back in. its all about adapting and trial and error. LISTEN TO YOUR BODY
4. Whatever works for your best. Some old pro bodybuilders build awesome bodies with full body workouts their whole careers most do 6 to 7 day splits some do 3 days splits like arnie did. Whatever works for you off cycle will work for you on cycle.
5. Doing bench squat and dead all in the one week is fine just space them out as the other guy said. Especially squat and dead.
6. My opinion is HELL NO! A normal squat is much better and also is more impressive because it brings co ordination and balance into the equation. If you have spotters use them to go heavy on the squat not the smith machine. The smith machine may cause more injury on things like deads etc if your form is not perfect the bar will only travel in a straight line so you need to know the axis it should travel. Otherwise you will injure yourself. If you perform the squat and dead correctly you shouldnt have to worry about injury. You can still go real heavy on a squat rack - if you cant get up just rack it lower.

The general argument is your body is still going to respond best to what works for you off cycle just it will respond in a more timely fashion. You will heal up a bit quicker and a bit bigger while on cycle.