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    Fat burning while running

    After reading the “The Bulking primer” I tried running for 65 mins, keeping my heart rate at the 65% to 70% target, which is 123 to 132 for my age group. I ended up exercising for 65 mins at a 4.0 mile/hr. rate. This was just a fast walk/slow jog, and my heart rate stayed at around 150 beats per minute. My question is, if I run at 4.0, or even 4.5 miles / hr (about 160 bpm), so I can keep a steady slow jog, will I be burning less fat than if I do a painfully slow, fast walk at 3.5 mph, which will keep my heart rate closer to that 132 bpm target??

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    Percentage wise, You will burn less fat.

    But when all is said and done, you will burn more total calories from the higher intensity therefore leaving you with more fat burned.


    Are you on any meds, and do you ingest any stims? 82 resting is pretty high

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    no, 82 is normal for me, everytime i get a medical they ask me if im a cross country runner, I mean I've always been active, but not no marathon runner. Anyways, so you're saying I'll burn less percent of my fat, but more overall fat? I'm not really tracking, guess I'm just a dumb grunt. I realize that if I run at 8 mph for an hour I'll obviously burn a lot more calories than if I run at 4 mph for an hour, but does that mean I'll burn more fat? If so, then what the hell is the point at keeping ur heart rate at just 130 (for my age)? If I run the same amount of time but faster and burn more fat then that's what I want to do, do you understand my question? and thanks for the reply, guess not too many people here are cool with new guys.

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    My fat hates when I run. I say that if you are going to be running, then run your ass off each time. Especially if you are a Marine

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    Studies have shown that higher intensity has a greater benefit for fat loss than lower intensity since it elevates your metabolism long after you stop running. You may technically burn more fat while running at low intensity but you will burn more fat over the course of the day with higher intensity.

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    ^ Can I have a look at those studies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_k View Post
    Percentage wise, You will burn less fat.

    But when all is said and done, you will burn more total calories from the higher intensity therefore leaving you with more fat burned.


    Are you on any meds, and do you ingest any stims? 82 resting is pretty high
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    ^ Can I have a look at those studies?

    http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/42/1/69

    http://etd-submit.etsu.edu/etd/these...d/king0417.pdf

    Bahr, R. Excess post-exercise oxygen consumption -magnitude, mechanisms and practical implications. Acta Phys Scand. Vol. 144, Suppl. 605, 1992.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZ E View Post
    ^ Can I have a look at those studies?

    http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/42/1/69

    http://etd-submit.etsu.edu/etd/these...d/king0417.pdf

    Bahr, R. Excess post-exercise oxygen consumption -magnitude, mechanisms and practical implications. Acta Phys Scand. Vol. 144, Suppl. 605, 1992.
    x2^ Check out this link. Its an Easy read and he backs everything up with studies. If you want to read the actual studies, let me know I can dig them up for you, I still have my college library account so we can dip into the school's already dwindling budget

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    God damn you guys are giving me homework here, thanks so much, exactly what I was looking for, resources. It will take me a few days to look through it but it seems like everyone here thinks that running faster will give me better fat burning results so I'll try it. I'll read the web pages yall recomended and then will come back and post if I have any questions, thanks again for the help, greatly needed and much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marine newbie View Post
    After reading the “The Bulking primer” I tried running for 65 mins, keeping my heart rate at the 65% to 70% target, which is 123 to 132 for my age group. I ended up exercising for 65 mins at a 4.0 mile/hr. rate. This was just a fast walk/slow jog, and my heart rate stayed at around 150 beats per minute. My question is, if I run at 4.0, or even 4.5 miles / hr (about 160 bpm), so I can keep a steady slow jog, will I be burning less fat than if I do a painfully slow, fast walk at 3.5 mph, which will keep my heart rate closer to that 132 bpm target??

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    My resting heart rate is a bit high at 82 bpm, I'm 31, 5'7, 160 lbs.
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    Thanks for all the links, I've been looking for an excuse to do more high intensity cardio.

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    HIIT is supposed to be the best for fat burn, and releases hormones to increase muscle gain as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edenfield View Post
    HIIT is supposed to be the best for fat burn, and releases hormones to increase muscle gain as well.

    What's HITT???? Can you send me a link to it please??

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    Yeah 82 resting sounds high as well as 160 while at a 4.0 mph pace??? thats a brisk walk...

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