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    is a bulking workout different then a cutting one?

    i know that most people tend to keep the rep range low while bulking, and then bump it up when they want to cut. Is this true?

    also, im trying to cut right now naturally before i start a cutting cycle again in may and need some advice on cardio

    I have researched and concluded that I should do about 6 days a week for 1-1.5hours a day

    I want to incorporate HIIT into my sessions along with low intesity but im afraid of loosing hard earned muscle, and want to avoid first thing AM cardio with bcaa in me because its highly catabolic (unless on cycle it helps)

    hypothetically, lets say i was on a cut cycle, would first thing AM cardio be ok because the AAS will help my body retain muscle, or still a no?

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    190lbs

    also, when it comes to cutting vs bulking, can someone elaborate on the differences in the number of sets performed (if any at all), rep range, and rest periods

    my prior cycle was test e for 12 weeks 500mg/week
    pct was nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50

    I was going to try and just keep my sets intense and reps a little higher, but keep my rest long during sets because I will be doing plenty cardio as it is. I figured this would be ok because most of cutting comes down to diet

    let me know what you guys think, its alot but im very interested

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    When I cut I drop from a 5 day split to a 3 day. I do less exercises and sets But go heavy on what i do. I concentrate on lowering carbs and a fats cutting simple carbs out completely. 45min morning cardio in the morning 6 days a week and 20 min after workouts. Very effective for dropping 10-15lbs a month for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Herc View Post
    When I cut I drop from a 5 day split to a 3 day. I do less exercises and sets But go heavy on what i do. I concentrate on lowering carbs and a fats cutting simple carbs out completely. 45min morning cardio in the morning 6 days a week and 20 min after workouts. Very effective for dropping 10-15lbs a month for me.
    sounds bout spot on to me without having to get to details

    Quote Originally Posted by ripped4herpleasure View Post
    i know that most people tend to keep the rep range low while bulking, and then bump it up when they want to cut. Is this true?

    also, im trying to cut right now naturally before i start a cutting cycle again in may and need some advice on cardio

    I have researched and concluded that I should do about 6 days a week for 1-1.5hours a day

    I want to incorporate HIIT into my sessions along with low intesity but im afraid of loosing hard earned muscle, and want to avoid first thing AM cardio with bcaa in me because its highly catabolic (unless on cycle it helps)

    hypothetically, lets say i was on a cut cycle, would first thing AM cardio be ok because the AAS will help my body retain muscle, or still a no?

    stats
    5'10
    25 years old
    14%Body fat
    training for 6 years
    190lbs

    also, when it comes to cutting vs bulking, can someone elaborate on the differences in the number of sets performed (if any at all), rep range, and rest periods

    my prior cycle was test e for 12 weeks 500mg/week
    pct was nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50

    I was going to try and just keep my sets intense and reps a little higher, but keep my rest long during sets because I will be doing plenty cardio as it is. I figured this would be ok because most of cutting comes down to diet

    let me know what you guys think, its alot but im very interested
    no u dont do higher reps when ur cutting, its an old myth thats proven to actually cause more muscle loss and strength losses

    when u cut u do less sets sinc eu dont have the ability to recover from a bulking workout

    ud do more cardio, preferably morning and after workout

    how many accounts u have firsttimer?

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    thx, whose firsttimer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranging1 View Post
    sounds bout spot on to me without having to get to details



    no u dont do higher reps when ur cutting, its an old myth thats proven to actually cause more muscle loss and strength losses

    when u cut u do less sets sinc eu dont have the ability to recover from a bulking workout

    ud do more cardio, preferably morning and after workout

    how many accounts u have firsttimer?
    I always believed that doing more reps with lower weight will get a more defined muscle, so i'd been wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie_m63 View Post
    I always believed that doing more reps with lower weight will get a more defined muscle, so i'd been wrong?
    Correct, you would be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
    Correct, you would be wrong.
    fieguy ansered it

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    How does this look?

    6 day split
    Mon-chest
    Tue-back
    Wed-delts and traps
    Thurs-tri
    Friday-bi
    Saturday-legs and lower back
    Sunday-Rest

    I'll continue to do heavy weight rep range of 6-10 and adjusting weekly and perform cardio in the morning and afterworkouts. With this said , in what session (morning or PWO) should HIIT be performed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripped4herpleasure View Post
    How does this look?

    6 day split
    Mon-chest
    Tue-back
    Wed-delts and traps
    Thurs-tri
    Friday-bi
    Saturday-legs and lower back
    Sunday-Rest

    I'll continue to do heavy weight rep range of 6-10 and adjusting weekly and perform cardio in the morning and afterworkouts. With this said , in what session (morning or PWO) should HIIT be performed?
    it looks overboard

    ur triceps and biceps dont need their own days while cutting, ur not going to be training them that hard with large volume if you wanna maintain them

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    can you recommend a good cutting split?

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    One method no one really ever uses while cutting is Double power drop sets. Basically while cutting you wanna keep the hard earned muscle and strength but get alil more volume in for that hardening effect. A Double power drop set goes something like this....Lets say you are doing flat bench, take a weight you can do 4-6 times and lift that to failure. take off 10-15% of the weight, wait 30 secs and do another 4-6 reps to failure, take another 10-15% off, wait 30 secs and do another 4-6 reps to failure. this way on your first set you are lifting heavy and keeping strength gains, but with the 2 drop sets you are getting the volume in for a hardening effect
    Last edited by Machdiesel; 01-22-2010 at 12:58 PM.

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    This is crazy shit. I had just finally got into a routine for cutting...

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    people like ronnie coleman were doing 800lb deadlifts 5 weeks from the olympia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
    Remember, What built the muscle, keeps the muscle.
    Great peice of advice fireguy

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    Ya but most important is your diet

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    If you have an intention to cut to the extreme, carb depletion and incorporation of giant sets to the workout would basically define the ultimate cutting workout regimen.

    This would be pretty pointless, on the other hand, unless you are competing BB who is going through the last few workouts before stepping on the stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machdiesel
    One method no one really ever uses while cutting is Double power drop sets. Basically while cutting you wanna keep the hard earned muscle and strength but get alil more volume in for that hardening effect. A Double power drop set goes something like this....Lets say you are doing flat bench, take a weight you can do 4-6 times and lift that to failure. take off 10-15% of the weight, wait 30 secs and do another 4-6 reps to failure, take another 10-15% off, wait 30 secs and do another 4-6 reps to failure. this way on your first set you are lifting heavy and keeping strength gains, but with the 2 drop sets you are getting the volume in for a hardening effect
    I'm goin to write this down and try it out on my next cut, cheers bro!

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    Day one: Delts, triceps, abs
    Day two: Back, traps, rear delts
    Day three: REST
    Day four: Chest, biceps, abs
    Day five: Quads, hams, calves
    Day six: REST

    OR..

    Legs, abs
    Delts, tri's
    Back, traps, rear delts, abs
    Chest, bis

    REST

    Legs, abs
    Chest, tri's
    Back, bi, abs
    Shoulders

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