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    Cardio, weights, or both?

    Looking to lower my bf% by 5% (down from 19 or so)

    So i have my diet in check.

    1: 1.5 slices whole wheat toast
    6 egg whites one with yoke


    2: 1.5 slices whole wheat toast
    2 grilled chicken breast
    1 TBSP MCT oil

    3: iso-pure + 1/4 cup oatmeal
    1 tbsp mct oil

    WORKOUT

    4:6-8oz lean steak or another chicken breast
    brocolli/asparagus

    5: 2 pieces chicken breast
    brocolli/asparagus

    i have whey shakes sometimes with or in between meals.

    that being said i am currently taking 3.3 IU of HGH going on 1 month.

    I am looking to start a test e/winny cycle once i lower my bf% to 15% or lower.

    Now i want to maintain most of my muscle mass while i lower my bf%. do you guys suggest me strictly lifting weights, strictly doing cardio, or light weights with cardio?

    Thanks in advance (hope this is the right forum)

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    7 days cardio . . . 4-5 days "normal" lifting schedule?

    my cardio consists of uphill 15% incline at a 4-5 mph fast walk. . . . the machine claims its 1k calories lost in an hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IGot80HD View Post
    7 days cardio . . . 4-5 days "normal" lifting schedule?

    my cardio consists of uphill 15% incline at a 4-5 mph fast walk. . . . the machine claims its 1k calories lost in an hour.
    Thats what I do, 7 days cardio, 5 days weights. 15% at 4-5mph on the treadmill is some pretty intense cardio, especially if you are doing it hands free on the treadmill. If you can do that for 60 minutes straight I tip my hat to you!

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    i love doing cardio. and i actually hike a lot when the weather is nice. live in the bay area so i am use to hiking huge inclines. but not gonna lie i gotta regroup sometimes and hold on for a minute or two haha.

    thanks fireguy1 i appreciate the feedback

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy1 View Post
    Thats what I do, 7 days cardio, 5 days weights. 15% at 4-5mph on the treadmill is some pretty intense cardio, especially if you are doing it hands free on the treadmill. If you can do that for 60 minutes straight I tip my hat to you!
    as long as hes in the fat burning zone, right?

    I would guess between 115 and 125??

    Lookin good, btw!!

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    I did cardio 6 days per week on an empty stomach straight after waking. Take 25 grams BCAA's (if you don't want to do this take in around 40 grams protein, though BCAA's would be far more preferable) beforehand and go for a brisk walk (one where you could still hold a converastion with some) for 45-60 minutes. Worked great for me. Makes you feel great for the day ahead and boosts the hell out of your metabolism.

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    guys whats the deal im not sure but alot of people say doing cardio after weights is a waste because your body is in a catabolic state and if u do cardio straight after it will eat muscle ... is it ok to do cardio straight after(fat strippin cardio)?? sorry for stupid question

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    perfectly fine to do that.....if you can, have some BCAAs inbetween the weights and cardio, if not dont wory and just take your PWO shake immediately after cardio..

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    thxxx for the info appriciate it and whats the best way to do it 65% max heart rate for bf burning true??

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    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=384553

    have a read of this mate.......i personally dont like the "fat burning zone".....i think HIIT is better for fat loss, well it is for me.......i liked doing LI a.m and HI after my workouts..

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    First of all what you want to take in between your workout and cardio is uncoupled amino acids, or individual amino acids, not BCAA's. BCAA's take too long to break down and get absorbed so it is pointless for this application. The uncoupled aminos feed your muscles so you won't risk burning them as fuel during your cardio, instead you will burn off fat.

    ps.

    The fat burning zone is not called the fat burning zone because it burns more fat that more intense cardio but rather because it burns a higher percentage of fat for each calorie burned. It is easier to burn more calories when doing higher intensity cardio, but you will be doing more cardiovascular training and will also run the risk of burning more muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood2 View Post
    First of all what you want to take in between your workout and cardio is uncoupled amino acids, or individual amino acids, not BCAA's. BCAA's take too long to break down and get absorbed so it is pointless for this application. The uncoupled aminos feed your muscles so you won't risk burning them as fuel during your cardio, instead you will burn off fat.

    ps.

    The fat burning zone is not called the fat burning zone because it burns more fat that more intense cardio but rather because it burns a higher percentage of fat for each calorie burned. It is easier to burn more calories when doing higher intensity cardio, but you will be doing more cardiovascular training and will also run the risk of burning more muscle.
    Last time I checked BCAA's were individual amino acids? Not sure I am understanding your post.

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