Shoulder definition

[Damienm05]

Looking for some excersizes to really differentiate my shoulders from my arm and have my delts really "pop". I've been seeing nice gains lately but I feel like with increased tricep size, my deltoid is dwarfed, if that makes any sense.

As of right now, this is my shoulder program in order-

3 sets rear delt cable flies, very low and slow w/ negatives
3 sets upright BB row
2 sets seated DB military press
2 sets seated BB military press
3 Sets side raises
2 sets front raises using 45 plate

Like I said, I've seen good results but always open to new things.

[amcon]

yep makes sense... you need to put on muscle mass the cutting comes from your genetics and your diet.

so i would start with your warm up of rear delt cable flies -
then go right to your major muscle builders - db military press, hit three set maybe for, then do wide bb presses 3 maybe 4, then up rights rows 2 sets, then your side and front raises...

that is a good work out

[Damienm05]

yep makes sense... you need to put on muscle mass the cutting comes from your genetics and your diet.

so i would start with your warm up of rear delt cable flies -
then go right to your major muscle builders - db military press, hit three set maybe for, then do wide bb presses 3 maybe 4, then up rights rows 2 sets, then your side and front raises...

that is a good work out

Diet is in check, good genes; very shredded, just not the shoulder/arm ratio I'd like. What I see in your avi is quit impressive. Same tone but much better shape. I'll definitely give that a go for shoulder day tomorrow.

[amcon]

go heavy first!!!

here is mine

2 warm up sets of military press
3-4 sets of behind the neck bb military presses 185, 225, 275 and sometimes 315 to really feel the weight
3 sets of standing military bb presses _ no bouncing!!!!
3 sets of hammer front extentions w dbs
2 sets of up right cable rows - fairly light might supper set with same excersize half the weight to reall get them burning

i do shrugs and rear delts in diff day... fyi

[Damienm05]

go heavy first!!!

here is mine

2 warm up sets of military press
3-4 sets of behind the neck bb military presses 185, 225, 275 and sometimes 315 to really feel the weight
3 sets of standing military bb presses _ no bouncing!!!!
3 sets of hammer front extentions w dbs
2 sets of up right cable rows - fairly light might supper set with same excersize half the weight to reall get them burning

i do shrugs and rear delts in diff day... fyi

God damn... How many reps?
Also, I've never done behind the neck BB press, I could speculate but I don't know how it is different. Maybe I should try your routine posted above tomorrow. Come to think of it, I haven't had variation in my shoulder routine in 6 months; so I will give it a go.
I actually hit legs on the same day and I find the workout has just become too damn long; I do traps on back day as is, would rear delt be acceptable as well? I've never tried.

[amcon]

i do rear delts on dif day cuz they use to be a weakness for me... so i isolated them on a day by them selves to really hit them correctly...

behind the neck presses are not for every one- some say never ever do them!!! i have trainers come yell at me that i do them lol - at 315 i think if something would break or tear i would have know by now...

any ways give it a go - doing 8 to 12 reps on ever thing except the 315 behind the neck 3 to 5 reps there...

[stpete]

I prefer to warm up w/db raises most of the time. Sometimes i'll use the nautilus.
Seated db presses 4x8-12
Smith Machine, go heavier here. 3x5-10
DB Front Raises, heavy 3x8-12
Bent over db's 2x10-15 Switch up sometimes w/reverse pec deck.
I'm one of those guys that isn't a big fan of behind the neck.
Almost forgot Hammer Machine, go heavy there too. But no reason to do smith and hammer both in same workout, pick one and go for it.
Good luck.

[ray0414]

if your looking for definition, i recommend side and lateral raises. these were a staple in my shoulder routines for years, which i attribute to nice definition in my shoulders. But when doing them, i do them the arnold way, go allll the way up to the stop, dont stop at yours shoulders, and be controlled on the way down. This means you use less weight, but u work a lot on definition.

[Damienm05]

This means you use less weight, but u work a lot on definition.

Despite being stronger than most of the guys in my gym, I actually work my way up to 25 lb. DBs for this. Sometimes I won't even go higher than 20 but I try to hold the pinnacle of the movement for 2 seconds and come down over the course of 3 seconds or so. What's this hammer machine/dumbell extension I'm hearing about?

[bjpennnn]

start doing arnold presses to, and if you know what halos are lol, i cant really explain them but they seem to make my shoulders pop. Like grab a 45 ponds weight and hold it at our belly button and make a huge circle over your head clockwise and back and fourth shitty job explaining it but it works. It really hits your core and i feel second it hits parts of the shoulder.

[rmalouf]

my shoulders simply respond to weight...doesnt matter wat i do as long as its heavy...those crappy 20 pound side raises dont do crap for me...i involve some cheatin techniques that allow me to do extremely heavy front and side raises..just try not to hyperextend....