Overtraining Question

**Corpsman** · 01-22-2011, 12:21 AM

Since I am just recently starting to workout again I was wondering... If I work a particular muscle group and it remains sore for several days, I should not rework that muscle until the soreness goes away, correct?

**BigBuck6** · 01-22-2011, 07:17 AM

According to Arnold no, the muscle is okay to work as long as you give it the nutrients and rest it needs, DOMS is not a result of inadequate rest. Now in the real world there is some truth behind this but then again you CAN overtrain if you do not know your body well enough. I suggest working every muscle group once a week in the beginning and see how you recover before you start working them more than once.

**maxwkw** · 01-22-2011, 08:33 AM

I would say that overtraining is much less common than overuse injury. If your muscles are a little sore but you can still get through your workout then just do a little extra warm-up and you should be fine. If it's joint pain examine your routine and modify it to be easier on that joint.

**terraj** · 01-22-2011, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by BigBuck6

According to Arnold no, the muscle is okay to work as long as you give it the nutrients and rest it needs, DOMS is not a result of inadequate rest. Now in the real world there is some truth behind this but then again you CAN overtrain if you do not know your body well enough. I suggest working every muscle group once a week in the beginning and see how you recover before you start working them more than once.

This is good^^

No such thing as overtraining, only undereating. This is something I've heard many a time.

**baseline_9** · 01-22-2011, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by BigBuck6

According to Arnold no, the muscle is okay to work as long as you give it the nutrients and rest it needs, DOMS is not a result of inadequate rest. Now in the real world there is some truth behind this but then again you CAN overtrain if you do not know your body well enough. I suggest working every muscle group once a week in the beginning and see how you recover before you start working them more than once.

Ok im going to disagree with the oart u say about training each bodypart once per week.

As a beginner or someone starting up again I would rather advise training each body part 2-3 times per week but with much less intensity.

WHY - Because when your a beginner you cannot train with great intensity because you do not have the skill. You need to build up basic motor skills in key movements before you can really push the intensity.

Also training each bodypart more than one time per week gives the trainee more opportunities to practice new learnt skills

Originally Posted by terraj

This is good^^

No such thing as overtraining, only undereating. This is something I've heard many a time.

I will absouloutly disagree with this

If your muscle is damaged as long as you are eating enough food and protein, stuffing extra food in you will not speed up muscle recovery

**maxwkw** · 01-22-2011, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Ok im going to disagree with the oart u say about training each bodypart once per week.

As a beginner or someone starting up again I would rather advise training each body part 2-3 times per week but with much less intensity.
agree, except for less intensity, I would say less volume.
WHY - Because when your a beginner you cannot train with great intensity because you do not have the skill. You need to build up basic motor skills in key movements before you can really push the intensity.

Also training each bodypart more than one time per week gives the trainee more opportunities to practice new learnt skills

totally

I will absouloutly disagree with this

If your muscle is damaged as long as you are eating enough food and protein, stuffing extra food in you will not speed up muscle recovery

agreed

**BigBuck6** · 01-22-2011, 01:22 PM

Baseline, the reason I actually said that to be honest is because I see way too many beginners doing biceps and chest 4 days a week and nothing else. I don't have anything against doing a routine more than once a week I would just personally like to see someone do other exercises. When it really comes down to it, I guess I would also like to see them practice different skills as you stated.

**terraj** · 01-22-2011, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Ok im going to disagree with the oart u say about training each bodypart once per week.

As a beginner or someone starting up again I would rather advise training each body part 2-3 times per week but with much less intensity.

WHY - Because when your a beginner you cannot train with great intensity because you do not have the skill. You need to build up basic motor skills in key movements before you can really push the intensity.

Also training each bodypart more than one time per week gives the trainee more opportunities to practice new learnt skills

I will absouloutly disagree with this

If your muscle is damaged as long as you are eating enough food and protein, stuffing extra food in you will not speed up muscle recovery

Something I've heard many times that "undereating/overtraining...." , I was not stating it as a fact, it's not as simple as that, true....but most beginners don't get enough food. Capish?

**baseline_9** · 01-22-2011, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by terraj

Something I've heard many times that "undereating/overtraining...." , I was not stating it as a fact, it's not as simple as that, true....but most beginners don't get enough food. Capish?

I defo agree with this LOL

**jcp2** · 01-24-2011, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Ok im going to disagree with the oart u say about training each bodypart once per week.

As a beginner or someone starting up again I would rather advise training each body part 2-3 times per week but with much less intensity.

WHY - Because when your a beginner you cannot train with great intensity because you do not have the skill. You need to build up basic motor skills in key movements before you can really push the intensity.

Also training each bodypart more than one time per week gives the trainee more opportunities to practice new learnt skills

I will absouloutly disagree with this

If your muscle is damaged as long as you are eating enough food and protein, stuffing extra food in you will not speed up muscle recovery

This is a great post, i think the biggest mistake most beginners have is going with the typical Muscle and Fiction 5 day split. As far as working out when sore, google "active recovery" it can make a big difference.

**Corpsman** · 01-24-2011, 07:35 PM

I worry about eating too much because I am too puffy right now. My basic diet doesn't change. In the morning I eat an egg, spinach, and turkey sausage on whole wheat bagel. Then throughout the work day I eat 1 string cheese, blue berries and grapes, an orange, and a turkey sandwich with spinach and tomatoes. I also eat a small bag of snap peas and carrots with ranch dressing. My wife makes a sensible dinner. After I work out I drink a protein shake and an amino 5000 Muscle Milk drink. What I HAD been doing routinely was drinking a beer or two when I wasn't working out. Now I stopped the beer so I am hoping the excess pounds will come off. Throughout the day I drink decaffeinated coffee, water, and a diet caffeine free soda. I am 175lbs but am 5'7", so I should be closer to 155lbs.