So I've officially stopped trying on the traditional fly movement. whether it be DB, cable, or Pec Deck, I never feel the pull in my chest, regardless of how much or little weight i use. I try to pinch my shoulder blades and begin the motion in my chest, however, it never seems to be working my chest. My shoulders feel like theyre coming out of socket, and i assume i cant be doing it correctly. I've been seeking help from more experienced friends but they say my motion looks good. Any tips for proper form? sorry for the long rambling post, just really frustrated right now. Ive been doing cable crossovers with more of a press motion to try to get a good pinch in my chest, but i cant help but feel like my chest is missing out on a great exercise. Thanks everyone.