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    Definitionofdriven is offline New Member
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    Very Detailed Schedule Need some reccomendations folks.

    First off my general goal is to build and sustain some muscle mass while getting lean.

    Statistically here is where I stand
    Age:22
    Weight:170-180
    Height:5' 11"-6'0"
    Type:Endomorph
    BF%:15-18%
    Weight Training:3+ years

    My overall goal is to find a good diet, set of excercise's, correct supplements and some information to put on some lean mass and sustain it, while also dropping body fat.

    Here is my current layout, any suggestions would be appreciated.

    KEY
    C=Calories
    TF=Total Fat
    SF=Saturated Fat
    Car=Carbohydrates
    S=Sodium
    Su=Sugar
    P=Protein
    F=Fiber
    Pu=Poly-Unsaturated Fat
    Mu=Mono-Unsaturated Fat
    Oc=Other Carbohydrates


    Supplementation:
    Muscletech Nitro-Tech Hardcore
    Calories-130
    Total Fat-1.5g
    Saturated Fat-1g
    Carbohydrates-3g
    Sodium-55mg
    Sugar-3g
    Protein-25g

    Optimum Nutrition 100% Casein
    Calories-120
    Total Fat-1g
    Saturated Fat-.5g
    Carbohydrates-3g
    Sodium-50mg
    Protein-24g
    Fiber-1g

    Scivation Xtend
    L-Isoleucine-1.75g
    L-Leucine-3.5g
    L-Glutamine-2.5g
    L-Valine-1.75g
    Citrulline Malate-1g

    Betancourt Nutrition Glutamine Chews
    Calories-45
    Total Fat-0.5g
    Carbohydrates-5g
    Pro-Blend-4320mg
    L-Glutamine
    L-Glutamine AKG
    L-Glutamine Peptide

    Betancourt Nutrition BCAA'S
    Calories-16
    Carbohydrates-4g
    Sodium-1mg
    Sugar-2g
    Fiber-2g
    Pro-Blend-2000mg
    L-Valine
    L-Leucine
    L-Isoleucine

    Natures Bounty Fish, Flax, & Borage Oil Pills
    Calories-30
    Total Fat-2g
    Poly-Unsaturated Fat-1g
    Omega 3,6,9
    Fish Oil-400mg
    Flax Oil-400mg
    Borage Seed Oil-400mg

    Muscle Pharm Muscle Gel Shot
    Calories-96
    Carbohydrates-2g
    Sodium-25mg
    Protein-22g
    Fiber-1g

    MuscleMeds Carnivor Protein Shot
    Calories-200
    Sodium-150mg
    Protein-50g

    Betancourt Nutrition Glutamine High-C
    Calories-20
    Protein-5g
    Vitamin C-1000mg

    Optimum Nutrition Opti-Men Vitamins

    USP Labs Jack3d

    Cellucor C4
    Calories-15
    Carbohydrates-3g
    Sugar-3g

    Optimum Nutrition Diet Bars
    Calories-180
    Total Fat-2.5g
    Saturated Fat-2g
    Carbohydrates-23g
    Sodium-140mg
    Sugar Alcohol-22g
    Protein-20g

    Here is the list of supplements I'm planning on ordering
    Platinum Hydrobuilder
    ON Casein
    USP Labs Jack3d
    No xplode
    Betancourt Nutrition Glutamine Chewies
    Optimum Optimal Protein Diet Bars
    MuscleMeds Carnivor Protein Shots
    Optimum Opti-Men
    Controlled Labs Orange Oximega Fish oil
    USPlabs Modern BCAA
    USPlabs OxyElite Pro
    (Any better suggestions appreciated)

    Foods:

    Smuckers Reduced Fat Peanut Butter (2 Tbsp)
    Calories-190
    Total Fat-12g
    Saturated Fat-2g
    Carbohydrates-12g
    Sodium-115mg
    Sugar-2g
    Protein-8g
    Fiber-2g
    Poly-Unsaturated Fat-3.5g
    Mono-Unsaturated Fat-6g

    Minute Brown Rice (1 Serving)
    Calories-230
    Total Fat-3.5g
    Carbohydrates-40g
    Sodium-150mg
    Protein-5g
    Fiber-2g

    Kellogs Fiber + Anti-oxidants Bar (1 bar)
    Calories-120
    Total Fat-4g
    Saturated Fat-3g
    Carbohydrates-19g
    Sodium-100mg
    Sugar-7g
    Protein-2g
    Fiber-9g

    Blue Diamond Almonds (28 Almonds)
    Calories-170
    Total Fat-15g
    Saturated Fat-1g
    Carbohydrates-5g
    Sodium-210mg
    Sugar-1g
    Protein-6g
    Fiber-3g

    Starkist Tuna Creations (1 Serving)
    Calories-175-200
    Total Fat-1-6g
    Carbohydrates-10g
    Sodium-575-675mg
    Sugar-7.5g
    Protein-27-35g
    Poly-Unsaturated Fat-2.5g
    Mono-Unsaturated Fat-2.5g

    Lance Crackers (1 Pack of 6 crackers)
    Calories-200
    Total Fat-9-11g
    Saturated Fat-1.5-2g
    Carbohydrates-22-27g
    Sodium-260-360mg
    Sugar-4-6g
    Protein-3-4g
    Fiber-1-2g

    Thai Noodles (1 Serving)
    Calories-200
    Total Fat-2g
    Carbohydrates-21g
    Sodium-480mg
    Sugar-2g
    Protein-6g
    Fiber-2g

    Kashi Tlc Pumpkin Spice & Flax Granola Bar (2 Bars)
    Calories-170
    Total Fat-6g
    Saturated Fat-1g
    Carbohydrates-26g
    Sodium-140mg
    Sugar-8g
    Protein-6g
    Fiber-4g
    Poly-Unsaturated Fat-2.5g
    Mono-Unsaturated Fat-3g

    Cliff Crunch Granola Bar (2 Bars)
    Calories-190
    Total Fat-9g
    Saturated Fat-1.5g
    Carbohydrates-25g
    Sodium-115mg
    Sugar-10g
    Protein-5g
    Fiber-5g
    Other Carbohydrates-12g

    Dole Yougurt & Whole Grain Oat Bites ( 1 Package)
    Calories-80
    Total Fat-5g
    Saturated Fat-1g
    Carbohydrates-17g
    Sodium-40mg
    Sugar-12g

    Quaker Oats (1/2 Cup)
    Calories-150
    Total Fat-3g
    Saturated Fat-.5g
    Carbohydrates-27g
    Protein-5g
    Fiber-4g
    Poly-Unsaturated Fat-1g
    Mono-Unsaturated Fat-1g

    Multi-Grain Cheerios (1 Cup)
    Calories-110
    Total Fat-1g
    Carbohydrates-23g
    Sodium-160mg
    Sugar-6g
    Fiber-3g
    Poly-Unsaturated Fat-.5g
    Other Carbohydrates-15g

    Greek Yougurt (1 Serving)
    Calories-100
    Carbohydrates-7g
    Sodium-80mg
    Sugar-7g
    Protein-18g

    Fat Free Cottage Cheese (1/2 Cup)
    Calories-80
    Carbohydrates-8g
    Sodium-400mg
    Sugar-6g
    Protein-12g

    Yoplait Light Yogurt (1 Serving)
    Calories-110
    Carbohydrates-20g
    Sodium-90mg
    Sugar-15g
    Protein-6g

    Egg Whites (1/4 Cup)
    Calories-30
    Carbohydrates-1g
    Sodium-95mg
    Protein-6g

    Silk Light Soy Milk (1 Cup)
    Calories-70
    Total Fat-1.5g
    Carbohydrates-7g
    Sodium-100mg
    Sugar-5g
    Protein-6g
    Fiber-1g
    Poly-Unsaturated Fat-1g
    Mono-Unsaturated Fat-.5g

    Vlasic Pickles (1 Piece)
    Sodium-280mg

    Healthy Choice Steam Meals (1 serving)
    Calories-220
    Total Fat-3.5g
    Saturated Fat-1g
    Carbohydrates-34g
    Sodium-540mg
    Sugar-3g
    Protein-13g
    Fiber-5g
    Poly-Unsaturated Fat-.5g
    Mono-Unsaturated Fat-2g

    Healthy Choice Dinners (1 Serving)
    Calories-220-230
    Total Fat-4-4.5g
    Saturated Fat-2g
    Carbohydrates-28-37g
    Sodium-540-560mg
    Sugar-2-10g
    Protein-11-16g
    Fiber-4-6g
    Poly-Unsaturated Fat-.5-1g
    Mono-Unsaturated Fat-1-1.5g

    Healthy Choice Steam Bowls ( 1 Serving)
    Calories-250
    Total Fat-3.5g
    Saturated Fat-1g
    Carbohydrates-36g
    Sodium-540mg
    Sugar-7g
    Protein-18g
    Fiber-5g
    Poly-Unsaturated Fat-1g
    Mono-Unsaturated Fat-1.5g

    Smart Ones English Muffin ( 1 Sandwhich)
    Calories-210
    Total Fat-5g
    Saturated Fat-3g
    Carbohydrates-28g
    Sodium-480mg
    Sugar-2g
    Protein-13g
    Fiber-2g

    Gortons Grilled Fish (1 Piece)
    Calories-80-90
    Total Fat-2.5-3g
    Saturated Fat-.5g
    Sodium-310-360mg
    Protein-14-16g
    Poly-Unsaturated Fat-.5g
    Mono-Unsaturated Fat-1g

    Natures Promise Soy Burgers (1 Burger)
    Calories-95
    Total Fat-1g
    Saturated Fat-.5g
    Carbohydrates-5g
    Sodium-460mg
    Protein-15g
    Fiber-4g

    Here is a small list I didn't have any info for:
    1.Water
    2.Diet Mountain Dew
    3.Sugar Free Red Bull
    4.Lean Turkey
    5.Grilled Chicken
    6.Beef Jerky
    7.Yams

    That pretty much sums it's up for the nutritional portion any changes or suggestions would be appreciated. ( Also as a side note to keep myself sane I eat a cheat meal on the 15th of every month it's usually a dozen wings and a large stromboli)

    Excercises: (By Day) (Ends April 18th Need Suggestions for a new one)

    Monday (4 Sets: Set 1,2,3: 30 Reps. Set 4: 20 Reps)
    1.E-Z Bar Curl
    2.Decline Tricep Extension
    3.Palm-Up Dumbbell Wrist Curl Over A Bench
    4.Front Dumbbell Raise
    5.Zottman Curl
    6.Incline Barbell Tricep Extension
    7.Palm-Down Dumbbell Wrist Curl Over A Bench
    8.One Arm Incline Lateral Raise
    9.Standing Bicep Cable Curl
    10.Tricep Dumbbell Kickback
    11.Standing Palm-Up Behind The Back Wrist Curl
    12.Power Partials

    Wendsday ( 4 Sets: Set 1,2,3: 30 Reps. Set 4: 25 Reps)
    1.Lying Leg Curls
    2. Barbell Hack Squats
    3.Rocking Standing Calve Raises
    4. Butt Lift (Bridge)
    5.Dumbbell Flyes
    6.Dumbbell Hang Clean
    7.Dumbbell Lunges
    8.Barbell Calve Raises
    9.One Legged Cable Kickback
    10.Incline Close-Grip Bench Press
    11.Leg Extensions
    12. Dumbbell Calve Raises

    Friday (4 Sets: Set 1-4: 30 Reps) Same excercieses as Monday but in reverse order.
    1.E-Z Bar Curl
    2.Decline Tricep Extension
    3.Palm-Up Dumbbell Wrist Curl Over A Bench
    4.Front Dumbbell Raise
    5.Zottman Curl
    6.Incline Barbell Tricep Extension
    7.Palm-Down Dumbbell Wrist Curl Over A Bench
    8.One Arm Incline Lateral Raise
    9.Standing Bicep Cable Curl
    10.Tricep Dumbbell Kickback
    11.Standing Palm-Up Behind The Back Wrist Curl
    12.Power Partials

    Saturday (4 Sets: Set 1,2,3: 30 Reps. Set 4: 20 Reps)
    1.Decline Dumbbell Bench Press
    2.Decline Reverse Crunch
    3.Hyperextensions
    4.Dumbbell Upright Row
    5.Close-Grip Front Lat Pull-Down
    6.Incline Dumbbell Bench Press
    7,Jackknive Sit-Up
    8.Deadlift
    9.Barbell Shrug
    10.Wide-Grip Lat Pull-Down
    11.Straight Barbell Bench Press
    12.Gorilla Chin/Crunch
    13.Weighted Sit-Ups
    14.Decline Barbell Close-Grip Bench Press

    Cardio:
    Cardio is done 7 days a week 2x a day for the duration of 30 minutes or 2 miles at a pace of 4mph at the highest incline on a treadmill.

    Off lifting days
    I do the P90x Ab Ripper X program for 16 minutes along with:

    Tuesday: 15 Perfect Push-Ups (Narrow, Standard, Wide) 45 Total
    15: Pullups (Narrow on a bar and 15 with the Perfect Pull-Up) 30 Total
    15 Ab straps (Sides, Standard, Lower Stomach) 45 Total

    Thursday: 15 Push-Ups (Diamond or narrow, Standard, Wide) 45 Total
    30 second Planks (Narrow, Standard, Wide)
    15 Isometric Chest Presses (Low, Mid, High) 45 Total

    Saturday: P90x Ab Ripper X

    Sunday: 2, 30 minute cardio sessions




    Typical Week:

    Assuming the fact that I'm working Wed,Thurs, & Fri. (Daylight) 6am-6pm (Working days eating schedule a concern?(I.e types of food)

    (I take Optimum nutrition Opti-Men Vitamins and Natures Bounty Fish Oil every day)

    Monday- (Higher protein day)
    Wake up and take supplements
    Pre-Workout:
    Cellucor C4-3 Servings
    Betancourt Nutrition BCAA'S
    30 mins of cardio
    Then to lift usually takes between 1 1/2-2hrs
    Post-Workout
    Muscletech Nitro-Tech Hardcore (1 Serving)
    Scivation Xtend (1 Serving)
    Betancourt Nutrition Glutamine Chews (1 Serving)
    30 mintues of cardio.

    Tuesday- 30 minutes of cardio
    P90x Ab Ripper X routine plus my other Tuesday excercises
    30 more minutes of cardio

    Wednsday- (Higher protein day)
    4:00am- Wake up 30 minutes of cardio (empty stomach sometimes I have one serving of Glutamine High-C)
    5:00am-Eat bowl of oatmeal
    7:30am-Eat usually a granola bar
    10:30am-Eat usually tuna or a healthy choice meal
    1:00pm-Eat Almonds or another granola type bar
    4:00pm-Eat protein bar
    6:30pm- Pre-workout meal usually something small nothing specific?
    Pre-Workout:
    USP Labs Jack3d
    Betancourt Nutrition BCAA'S
    6:30pm-30 minutes of cardio
    7:30-9:30pm- Wed lifting schedule
    9:30pm- Post workout meal usually 1 serving of whey protein with water and one serving of casein protein with water.
    Post-Workout
    Scivation Xtend (1 Serving)
    Betancourt Nutrition Glutamine Chews (1 Serving)

    Thursday-
    4:45am- wake up
    5:00am-Eat bowl oatmeal
    7:30am-Eat usually a granola bar
    10:30am-Eat usually a healthy choice meal
    1:30pm- Eat one of the food items listed
    4:30pm- Eat usually a protein bar
    6:30pm- Pre Workout meal- same as above
    6:30pm-30 minutes of cardo
    7:00pm- Ab Ripper X
    9:00pm- Post Workout meal of casein protein with soy milk (1 Serving)

    Friday- (Higher protein day)
    4:00am- Wake up 30 minutes of cardio (empty stomach sometimes I have one serving of Glutamine High-C)
    5:00am-Eat bowl of oatmeal
    7:30am-Eat usually a granola bar
    10:30am-Eat usually tuna
    1:00pm-Eat usually musclemeds carnivor protein shot or something similar.
    4:00pm-Eat protein bar
    6:30pm- Pre-workout meal usually something small try to eat protein?
    Pre-Workout:
    Cellucor C4-3 Servings
    Betancourt Nutrition BCAA'S
    6:30pm-30 minutes of cardio
    7:30-9:30pm- Friday lifting schedule
    9:30pm- Post workout meal usually 1 serving of whey protein with water and one serving of casein protein with water.
    Post-Workout
    Scivation Xtend (1 Serving)
    Betancourt Nutrition Glutamine Chews (1 Serving)


    Saturday-
    30 minutes of cardio
    Saturday lifting schedule
    P90x Ab Ripper X routine
    30 more minutes of cardio

    Sunday-
    30 minutes of cardio
    lengthy gap
    30 more minutes of cardio

    Summary:
    Hello, my name is Ryan in a nutshell I want to get bigger, stronger, and leaner haha who doesn't right? Basically I'm looking for info & insight on a better workout routine, diet, and supplementation. Recently in the past few winter months I have packed on a good deal of body fat cheifly due to a high fat diet and very little physical activity. Although I have made the healthiest choce of my life by quitting smoking going 4 months strong. Before I started racking up weight I was on a successfull diet which caused me to have my intial big drop in weight and BF from 225lbs about 22%BF to 160 about 10-11%BF. But the problem with the diet was that it was only an intake of 1200 calories per day spaced out between 6 meals every 3 hours. This is currently what I'm doing now again to try to get back into shape but I know this isn't right I need a better balanced diet and more calories to build in sustain muscle. My work schedule is often hectic, I work swing shift 12 hr days 3 days on 3 days off daylight for 2 weeks then nights for 2 weeks but I always strive to meet my nutritional needs. I am a very dedicated and motivated person that seeks self-improvement. I'm writing this article in hopes that someone out there will have some positive information to give me which I'm sure a lot of you do. I've been going through trial and error the past few years while bodybuilding, some things have had success but nothing drastic and I always seem to hit a plataue, If anyone out there can help please don't hesitate to do so. I understand # 5 & 6 below can be expanded on a lot and they are very in-depth questions but please make suggestions. I know there is no magic pills, no easy way to get big it takes hard work and dedication and I'm prepared to do that. Below I will list some major questions or concerns I have with my current regiment and where I think improvment could be made. Thank you for your time

    Ryan

    Questions: (
    1. What is a good meal to eat to start your day?
    2.Better to run before resistance training or after? (Because Im doing both now)
    3. What is a good meal for Pre- Workout?
    4. What is a good Post-Workout Meal? (Besides protein of course
    5. What should my intakes be (ie. calories, carbs, ect.) for someone that is specifically trying to lean out but still preserve or expand their mass?
    6. Please review my excercises, foods, and supplements and throw in any suggestions you may have.
    7.Any other suggestions on things I have missed (and I'm sure I missed plenty) are greatly appreciated.

    Again thank you very much for all of your help,
    Ryan

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    gethuge21 is offline New Member
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    get rid of nitro tech its loaded with sugar and anything made by muscle tech sucks

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    You eat a ton of processed food/crap. Drop the grains and most dairy and anything that says light or low fat. Dietary fat doesn't make you make fat. Soy milk? You DO NOT need all these crazy supplements. You need to re think what food is. A good diet doesn't consist of pre packaged anything. Do you eat vegetables? Fruits?
    It's really quite simple though. Shop for stuff that will go bad in a few days if not eaten. Eat meats of all kinds, whole eggs, lots of veggies, nuts and seeds, some fruit no sugar or grains. The only supplement you need is fish oil 3-10g omega three daily. Be sure at first you are replacing all the processed carbs with enough good fats. Eat 1-1.5g protein per LB lean mass. Enough carbs to maintain your work load and then you adjust how many calories from your fat
    dependIng on your goals. Ie if you're trying to gain or loose weight.
    Last edited by Jenseno9; 04-03-2011 at 08:32 AM.

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