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01-10-2013, 02:01 PM #1
So.... you want abs....
and you think its impossible, you do crunches, etc., etc., etc. First of all- EVERYONE has abs. You want a deep 6 pack... work for it! Abs are NOT genetic... they are earned! Yes- some of it is diet and body fat; but not as much as you think. You can be as high as 12-14% body fat and still have a fully visible deep six pack.
To build abs like you see on the cover of Men's Health; you need to understand how your abdominal wall is built. Most people focus on hitting only the outer abdominal muscles (rectus abdominis & external oblique) when a majority of "the look" actually comes from you internal ab muscles (transversus abdomins & internal oblique).
It is VERY hard to hit the internal ab muscles; crunches, conventional leg lifts, and side bends barely hit them and you'll never get anywhere near failure by doing those exercises. Chances are- you already have enough outer ab muscle mass to give you the look you want; now you need to define it which will happen when your internal abs are up to par.
When you start building your internal abs, two things happen and sometimes very quickly. First- your internal abs will start to "suck in" your stomach. You will visibly see that within a couple months your midsection will get smaller. Take a side view picture now- and take one a couple months down the road. You will see that width of your trunk has changed and you've gotten thinner. This is because the internal obliques will bring in your entire abdominal wall.
Second, you will start to see definition of the outer abdominal muscles. This is because the internal abdominal muscles "tuck under" the outer abdominal muscles and will push your outer abs outwards giving you that deep cut look. This is where you are going to see your "6 pack". Essentially, you have two muscles stacking on top of each other. To have a 6 pack- this MUST happen and it will. The outer ab muscles by themselves can only get so big and you need the inner ab muscles for the definition.
The difference between this
and this
is the inner ab muscles and how well they are built. If you have the first pic already- you've probably never really hit your internal abs.
There are a few common mistakes that most make that need to be addressed before we go into the work out.
#1 Put down the weights. Do NOT use weights when working ab muscles. Ab muscles are small- and weights won't help you get a 6 pack. Forget doing crunches with plates and using the ab machine at the gym. Usually you will end up with a "girdle" appearance meaning you have little definition and just a hard puffy stomach. You'll end up looking bloated more than anything; which will make it even harder to get the look you want.
#2 Don't over train- 2 maybe 3 times a week tops. Start out with one. After a few months go to two, and then after a year move into 3.
#3 Quality over quantity- the number of reps does not matter; its how well you do those reps that counts. Cheating doesn't help you- it hurts you. You end up teaching your body that the motion you are trying to accomplish needs secondary muscles (i.e. back, hip flexors, etc.) to complete the motion. That's not a good thing- you need complete isolation. One good rep is better than 5 bad ones and the higher rep counts will come over time.
#4 Crunches- those are warm up. They aren't primary building/toning exercises. The reason they are not is because there are so many other muscles involved with doing a crunch that you will never exhaust all the ab muscles to get you where you want to be. It will take you a decade of doing crunches to get what you want.
#5 Speed & Failure- There is no rest between sets here; because you need to get to failure every single time. That's hard to do when you take breaks between sets. All the sets below should be done back to back with the only rest being the time it takes you to get from one work out station to the next in the gym. Do the sets in sequence back to back with no rest; you'll get faster gains because you are putting constant stress on the abdominal wall.
#6 Do the whole routine- every time. You want to hit your abdominal muscles from multiple angles. Like I said earlier- reps don't matter. If you can only do a couple reps and you hit failure; move on to the next exercise.
Before I get to the routine, one thing that you need to remember is that there are two important rules that applies to every single exercise. The first one is always keep your core tight. The second is to let your core do all the work. Its easy to cheat with your shoulders, back, etc. Focus on using only your abs. You will cheat- its almost impossible not to especially at the beginning; but focus on using your core.
To help minimize cheating and having to worry about other things, I highly recommend you use these arm slings:
Some gyms already have them and if not, do yourself and favor and buy your own. They are relatively in-expensive and you can take them to the gym with you. Its hard to focus on working your core when you have to worry about holding yourself up and stopping yourself from swinging. These will help you focus on keeping all the tension on your core. You can connect them to the pull up bar, the smith machine, etc. I use mine at the gym but also use them at home with one of those door frame pull up bars, or you can hang them in a basement from a metal bar in between a floor beam.
Here is each exercise. If I can find it, there will be a link to a video showing you how to do it, as well as any important notes.
Decline Bench Crunches: This one is obvious. Just a standard crunch on a decline bench. An important note- THIS IS A WARM UP exercise. At first, do 10-15-20 whatever you can to failure. You can take a small breather after this before moving into the actual routine. After this though- no rest.
Hanging Leg Lifts: You've probably done these before. Some important notes however are that first; it doesn't matter how high you come up. You don't have to bring your legs up any higher than your waist to make an L of your body. The most important thing is focusing all the tension on your core and using your ab muscles to bring you legs up. You do not want to be swinging to bring your legs up. You want a very controlled rep both up and down. A good way to time it is to count to 5 both ways as your legs travel. You want to bring your legs up and back down in a controlled fashion while keeping your core tight and focusing on your abs doing all the work. You will feel some pressure in your hip flexors and maybe in your groin. That means that your abs are weak and other muscles are trying to kick in to assist; that's a good thing because it also means you're hitting your abs. The hip flexor/groin feeling will go away with time as your abs get stronger. Here is a video link to this exercise, but don't pay attention to how high she is going up as it doesn't matter. You can go up only a foot and still get the same impact to your ab muscles. Focus on not swaying and cheating with other muscles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_QQ1QJ-4ig
Hanging Leg Kicks: This one is pretty simple. You're hanging and kicking like your swimming. Here's a video to something similar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CjXU94jdGU Now.. you want to do this hanging, and you don't have to kick very far. 4-6 inches is fine and you don't have to bring your legs up very far. The trick is to keep your core tight while you are doing it. Because your kicking, your going to start rocking a little. Use your core to stop the rocking. That is where the actual work out is; not from kicking.
Hanging Side Leg Lifts: These are hard, really hard- but they work and quickly. This is what these look like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWYLp2G8ixU
Keep legs completely straight (don't bring your knees up). You can do these side to side (with a pause in the middle) but its better to do one side at a time. One day you'll be able to not rock at all as well as not move your upper body above your waist. Keep your core tight and focus on moving your legs up and sideways (at the same time) without rotating your upper body above your waist and rocking. This is the exercise that gets rid of love handles and sucks in your stomach as its hitting your inner obliques directly and your outer obliques can't help them. You will feel this in your hip flexors, and again that will go away with time. Failure with these is considered to be when your upper body starts swaying. When that happens- stop and move on to the next exercise. Be happy if you can do more than 3 reps without cheating. I can do 30 on each side after 2 years. Now I do 10 on each side and hold for 10 seconds when I get to the top.
Hanging V: These are sometimes hard to explain. Essentially you are doing the exact same thing as the Hanging Leg raise; except as you bring your legs up you start to spread them in a controlled fashion so when your legs are waist high they make a V. Control it back down and bring the V back in so when you are at rest your feet are touching again. This is a transition exercise from outer ab to inner ab. This is where you start to get into muscle control and one day you'll be able to "roll" your stomach like this dude (watch at 25 second mark): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sldbsAzqf8
Wood Chop High to Low: This is a good one. Here is a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbscBF209CY however a few things. First of all, use one hand and put the other behind your back. Second- go from as high up as you can, and come all the way down to your toes. You want to try and touch your toes essentially as this will give you the full range of motion. You want to keep your core tight, and use your core to rotate you as well as bring the weight down. Do not load a bunch of weight on this exercise. 20-40 lbs is more than enough and you can tell if you have too much weight on the machine if your shoulders kick in to help you move the weight. You want to be able to do 50+ reps per side with this so if you can't too much weight. Its okay to also do these with light dumbbells or no weight at all. Myself I use a 20 lb dumbbell but start with the machine and focus on form. You should keep your arms completely stiff and your core should be doing the work; otherwise you are cheating. This exercise is awesome for those of you that play golf because its gonna put a lot of power behind your drive when you T off.
Wood Chop Low to High: Same as above, but now you set the machine to the lowest position and your driving upwards . Again, keep core tight and let your core do all the work. Picture this as grabbing a golf club and swinging upward to hit someone in the chin.
Decline Bench Twist Crunch: Simple decline bench twisting crunch. Do these till you can't anymore. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIapHNvuUoo
Leg Cross Twist Crunch: Just like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArPeDeGsZEA Do these till you can't anymore.
Now, here is the routine. This routine should be done once a week and shouldn't take you longer than 20-30 minutes tops. If it takes you longer than that; you're cheating and resting between sets. Each exercise should be done in this specific order (there's a reason for that, its called guaranteed failure).
Decline Bench Crunches: 1 x Failure
Hanging Leg Lifts: 1 x Failure
Hanging Leg Kicks: 1 x Failure
Hanging Side Leg Lifts: 1 x Failure (each side)
Hanging V: 1 x Failure
Wood Chop High to Low: 1 x 50 (each side)
Wood Chop Low to High: 1 x 50 (each side)
Decline Bench Twist Crunch: 1 x Failure
Leg Cross Twist Crunch: 1 x Failure
Again, do these in order; and with no rest in between sets.
Another thing you can do at work, laying on the couch, sitting on a plane, and pretty much anywhere are called "Vacuums". These are awesome in working you inner ab muscles. You should not do them on ab day- do them on your off days or a few days after your ab routine. I do them on the couch when I'm laying down watching TV. At first, do them in the mirror so you can focus on (and see) sucking your abs in as far as you can. Don't be discouraged if you can't suck in very far (that means you have very weak inner ab muscles) because it will come with time as you build a strong core. Do as many as you want/can. Suck in- hold for 30 seconds, release for 10 seconds, repeat. Hold for as long as you can if you can't do 30 seconds.
For the ladies, you can do Kegel exercises to work your Pelvic Floor at the same time. Suck in the Vacuum and do a Kegel a the same time. For some women it is easier to do both at the same time because your aponeurosis muscle interconnects somewhat into your Pelvic Floor. You get twice the benefit as your inner abs are the core muscle used during thrusting (sex, women on top) and if you train your body to do a thrust and Kegel at the same time... you're significant other is going to love you for it.
Here is the Vacuum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwvj5Izthc4
Let me know if anyone has any questions an I'll try to answer the best that I can. Do this routine for 2 months, once a week the first month, twice a week the second month... take a before and after pic. I promise it will work....Last edited by dan991; 01-10-2013 at 02:51 PM.
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01-10-2013, 02:32 PM #2
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01-10-2013, 02:49 PM #3
Ive heard of the vacuum for a while but never give it a try...going to try the vacuum for a while to see if i see the difference... good info.
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01-10-2013, 03:00 PM #4
Dan that was one of the best threads I have read and I'm definitely gonna start doing that, I will take a before and after pic.
Only prob I have is I'm sitting at about 16-18% now after a massive winter bulk lol is there any point me starting this regime yet or get my BF down first which should take about 4 weeks
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01-10-2013, 03:06 PM #5
Actually- I'd start now. Its easier to burn body fat that it is to build muscle IMHO. Plus- the speed between all these sets also works as a high intensity interval training type regimen so you are going to be burning fat at the same time anyways. It takes time to build a strong core and you can use this high body fat time to learn muscle control and what each exercise should feel like when you do a rep properly. Fat comes off... muscles doesn't magically appear.
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01-10-2013, 03:07 PM #6Originally Posted by dan68131
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01-10-2013, 03:11 PM #7
Wicked thread. The stomach vacuum isn't as easy as it looks, kids at school thought I was a mutant when is do that lol. The side wave he did was insane.. No idea how to control the core in that direction
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01-10-2013, 04:24 PM #8
The Hanging V exercise teaches you how to feel out inner from outer ab being hit. Its a transitional exercise because from rest pulling up you are hitting outer ab (rectus) and as you start spreading your legs for the V you are moving into hitting your inner ab (transversus). Over time you just build up to know where you're hitting and being able to tell which one you are contracting. Some people don't feel one over the other at first but when you do something enough you become use to the feeling and know if you're doing it the correct way. Its actually kind of a weird exercise but it works.
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01-10-2013, 04:28 PM #9
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01-10-2013, 04:41 PM #10
Very nicely done Dan!
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01-10-2013, 05:02 PM #11
To answer a few PM's... yes, you can do this routine year round. You don't have to stop at two months- I do this routine year round, 2-3 times a week, and vacuums almost daily. As you get stronger, increase the number of reps and throw in your own modifications. For example, on the Hanging Side leg lifts; now I only do 10 instead of 30 per side- but what I do is when I get to the top I hold for 10 seconds as that is giving me a lot more of a work out than just banging out 30 reps.
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01-10-2013, 09:19 PM #12
Holy crap dan this is awesome. Definitely subscribed to this one. I'll be doing this on my ab days
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01-10-2013, 09:49 PM #13
DAN the AB MAN!
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01-10-2013, 10:13 PM #14
Based on your avi pic....the last person who should be posting on the forum right now is you. Hit print and get in the gym....
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01-10-2013, 10:17 PM #15
LOL.. actually i will be printing it tomorrow! when i go back to work.. i didnt do abs today just cardio and vacuums and laid on the couch all day.. i will be doing the full routine tomorrow.
lookn forward to it! BTW for chest i can do the pec deck just the cables i cant do cuz i have to hold the handles with my hands which is what puts the strain on my inner elbow.. i need to work on the pec separation.. any suggestions??
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01-10-2013, 11:21 PM #16
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01-11-2013, 04:39 AM #17
Excellent read Dan...........cheers
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01-11-2013, 03:26 PM #18Senior Member
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Good Post.
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01-11-2013, 07:54 PM #19
subscribed
great post
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01-11-2013, 08:51 PM #20
dan i got the TVA pretty well engaged now my man! seeing things down there when sucking in i havent seen before! less than a week.. thought id show u an update! making good progress! getn the sides to suck in too! this is freaking awesome. tomorrow will be abs!
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01-11-2013, 10:25 PM #21
great read!
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01-11-2013, 10:28 PM #22
Good deal... stick to the routine and make sure to do the whole thing even if its only 1 rep of each set!
P.S. Are those Skidz? WTF kind of pants are those? Is this 1990?
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01-11-2013, 10:31 PM #23
i dont even know what a skidz is??
my wife made em out of this awesome material! theyre my pj shorts.. i have like 7 pair all different colors ranging from the blue u see to christmas tree green and even pink! (which matched the pink fuzzy slippers i used to have) LOL..
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01-11-2013, 10:33 PM #24
i tell u when i get my stomach sucked in like that and start wiggling it around it feels funny! after i get done i went and sat on the couch and my stomach was making all kinds of growling noises!
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01-11-2013, 10:38 PM #25
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01-11-2013, 10:48 PM #27Banned
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01-11-2013, 11:53 PM #28
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01-11-2013, 11:59 PM #29
Or maybe you just had to fart
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01-12-2013, 01:31 PM #30
Just tried this routine for the first time and my god it is hard. I didn't realise how weak my abdominals are but given time that will improve.
Felt pain in places and muscles in my stomach I never knew I had. Thanx again Dan!
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01-12-2013, 02:33 PM #31
A lot of people say that....
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01-12-2013, 03:29 PM #32Originally Posted by dan68131
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01-12-2013, 03:30 PM #33
well dan i am finally gonna do the ab routine tonite! nonetheless just from doing the vacuums my lower abs (i suppose TVA) are sore!
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01-12-2013, 03:34 PM #34
Tonight? Who the hell works out on a Saturday night? Oh yea- you're old.... forgot.
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01-12-2013, 03:39 PM #35
405 might be getting on a bit I'm 29 lol no offence 405
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01-12-2013, 03:56 PM #36
What do the vacuums do?
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01-12-2013, 04:00 PM #37
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01-12-2013, 05:52 PM #39
So instead of senior member shouldn't dans status say "Dan the Ab Man"? Lol
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01-12-2013, 06:16 PM #40Originally Posted by --->>405<<---
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