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    Duration of workout

    Hey just wondering what all of you think, I'v noticed that I'm able to finish my workout in 30-45 mins is this bad? I do all my lifts just don't really have a rest period. Just wondering if I should slow it down or something

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    Could add a few more sets and slow it down a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soar
    Could add a few more sets and slow it down a bit
    Alright ill give it a try. I feel like my Intensity is there obviously if I can get In a total of like16+ sets the last of every exercise is to failure but just feel like I'm not getting a good workout because of the duration

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    What are your routines like? Sounds like you could potentially add another muscle into the workout?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allskill87 View Post
    Hey just wondering what all of you think, I'v noticed that I'm able to finish my workout in 30-45 mins is this bad? I do all my lifts just don't really have a rest period. Just wondering if I should slow it down or something
    Increase the weights. Looks like your cruising through them. Although I've heard 45 mins is ideal. Do you work out 4 or 5 days a week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin23q

    Increase the weights. Looks like your cruising through them. Although I've heard 45 mins is ideal. Do you work out 4 or 5 days a week?

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    My last two sets of everything is to failure, n I lift 5 days a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soar
    What are your routines like? Sounds like you could potentially add another muscle into the workout?
    Normally they are 5 lift 3 sets 6-10 reps always failure on the last set of every exercise. I'v been thinking of doing two a day but idk never really have done that before

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    I'm in and out of the gym in 30 minutes or less. No rest between sets- get in there and bang out the sets then go home. I like it better that way plus it helps build muscle endurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan68131
    I'm in and out of the gym in 30 minutes or less. No rest between sets- get in there and bang out the sets then go home. I like it better that way plus it helps build muscle endurance.
    Yeah that's how I was looking at it but I wasn't sure if it's causing me to not make the most of everything while on cycle and also while I'm off

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    I usually have 1min rest between all sets,

    2-3mins rest between Excersises, in that time I prepare for next lift, then I'm rested enough to get the most out of my next 3-4 sets of that Excersise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjwr
    I usually have 1min rest between all sets,

    2-3mins rest between Excersises, in that time I prepare for next lift, then I'm rested enough to get the most out of my next 3-4 sets of that Excersise.
    I don't really keep track of how long. Normally just rack the weight take a few seconds thn lift again

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    Quote Originally Posted by allskill87

    I don't really keep track of how long. Normally just rack the weight take a few seconds thn lift again
    Yeah at the end of the day it's what works best for u!
    Try different ways, try timing ur rests for something different see how it goes.
    If u don't like it go back to what's comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjwr

    Yeah at the end of the day it's what works best for u!
    Try different ways, try timing ur rests for something different see how it goes.
    If u don't like it go back to what's comfortable.
    I'll give that a try I just feel like I'm not getting as good as workouts as I should be but that's prob just me over thinking it all

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    if ur doin HIT then thats about right....I would add about two more sets and maybe another bodypart....sounds like ur just working one?

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    You can always do more cardio at the end, as much as I hate cardio, I always try to fill in the gaps with cardio. I do minimum 25 minutes of boring old cardio a day.
    Besides that I don't think you have anything to worry about, if your lifting to failure then it's all good mate.
    Good luck.

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    [QUOTE=allskill87;6343713]I don't really keep track of how long. Normally just rack the weight take a few seconds thn lift again[/QUOTE]

    This can only refer to the fact that the amount of weight you are working with is probably 50% of your 1RM, maybe even less.

    You won't add much muscle if you continue to lift like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cancer82
    if ur doin HIT then thats about right....I would add about two more sets and maybe another bodypart....sounds like ur just working one?
    Yeah one a day, I feel like two adays my second body part wouldn't be getting 100% effort

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin23q
    You can always do more cardio at the end, as much as I hate cardio, I always try to fill in the gaps with cardio. I do minimum 25 minutes of boring old cardio a day.
    Besides that I don't think you have anything to worry about, if your lifting to failure then it's all good mate.
    Good luck.

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    Yeah I don't do any cardio haha, I count walking to class my cardio it's about 3 miles in total haha but I guess I can add cardio in some days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer
    This can only refer to the fact that the amount of weight you are working with is probably 50% of your 1RM, maybe even less.

    You won't add much muscle if you continue to lift like that.
    Really? So how long of a rest would you say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by allskill87 View Post

    Yeah one a day, I feel like two adays my second body part wouldn't be getting 100% effort
    well two a days refer to workin out twice a day....I was sayn work another bodypart in with ur exercises....like back and bis....chest and tris....etc....
    do u not have time to do it like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by cancer82

    well two a days refer to workin out twice a day....I was sayn work another bodypart in with ur exercises....like back and bis....chest and tris....etc....
    do u not have time to do it like that
    Yeah I meant it as two parts a day not twice a day, I have plenty of time I just feel like I wouldn't be getting as good of a workout in during the week if I can only go 3 or 4 days a week

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    your rest period will vary on how much oxygen debt you have i.e bigger muscle groups like legs and back you need longer recovery time between sets than working shoulders or biceps.

    are you pyramiding the weights up through your sets??

    the intensity may not be that intense, look up HIT training for some tips. also, check your form and range of motion. its a massive jump when form and ROM are improved!
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    Quote Originally Posted by digsy1983
    your rest period will vary on how much oxygen debt you have i.e bigger muscle groups like legs and back you need longer recovery time between sets than working shoulders or biceps.

    are you pyramiding the weights up through your sets??

    also, id be very shocked if you are traning 'High Intensity', you would know youve had a workout after HIT and you need the longer rest periods.
    I know I've had a workout after I'm done just saying I finish my workout quick and faster thn I used to. I increase the weight each set

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    Quote Originally Posted by allskill87 View Post
    Yeah that's how I was looking at it but I wasn't sure if it's causing me to not make the most of everything while on cycle and also while I'm off

    Just curious are you on cycle now? If so what are you running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by canesfan804

    Just curious are you on cycle now? If so what are you running?
    No off for the last 5 months, starting up end of feb, will be running test e 500 and tren100 eod

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    I did shoulders last night. Under 30 mins
    3 sets overhead BB press 17,13,12
    3 sets single arm DB rows 16,12,9
    3 sets reverse DB flys 20,16,13
    3 sets combo front side raises 18,12,8
    3 sets machine military press 20,15,9
    1 min froward 1 minute back arm bike

    then 40 min stair mill

    but legs take 40 min
    I think if you are lifting for intensely, it should not take more than 45 mins ever. Slow and controled down, and power up. Repeat

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    oh last set always to failure

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ78
    I did shoulders last night. Under 30 mins
    3 sets overhead BB press 17,13,12
    3 sets single arm DB rows 16,12,9
    3 sets reverse DB flys 20,16,13
    3 sets combo front side raises 18,12,8
    3 sets machine military press 20,15,9
    1 min froward 1 minute back arm bike

    then 40 min stair mill

    but legs take 40 min
    I think if you are lifting for intensely, it should not take more than 45 mins ever. Slow and controled down, and power up. Repeat
    Why dbell row If you don't mind me asking?

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    Barbell hurts my wrist and my forearm bone sometimes. I feel the DB more in my traps and side delts. Just try it next time. Just started doing them about a month ago when I saw someone on here suggest them.

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    make sure you get your elbow up as high as possible, and dont hit urself in the chin with the DB. First time I did them, I just grabed the 45s to see how it felt, and they were pretty light and I smacked my chin and opened it up. I still have a little scab from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan68131 View Post
    I'm in and out of the gym in 30 minutes or less. No rest between sets- get in there and bang out the sets then go home. I like it better that way plus it helps build muscle endurance.
    No rest in between sets? I'd like to watch one of your workouts, sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ78
    make sure you get your elbow up as high as possible, and dont hit urself in the chin with the DB. First time I did them, I just grabed the 45s to see how it felt, and they were pretty light and I smacked my chin and opened it up. I still have a little scab from it.
    Oh u mean like upright row?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ78 View Post
    make sure you get your elbow up as high as possible, and dont hit urself in the chin with the DB. First time I did them, I just grabed the 45s to see how it felt, and they were pretty light and I smacked my chin and opened it up. I still have a little scab from it.
    Lol, I can laugh now but damn I've done that as well. Hurts like shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWP806

    No rest in between sets? I'd like to watch one of your workouts, sir.
    I get a quick break enough time to put weight on and take a few breathes

    Oh sorry nvm I thought u said that to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ78 View Post
    I did shoulders last night. Under 30 mins
    3 sets overhead BB press 17,13,12
    3 sets single arm DB rows 16,12,9
    3 sets reverse DB flys 20,16,13
    3 sets combo front side raises 18,12,8
    3 sets machine military press 20,15,9
    1 min froward 1 minute back arm bike WTF is that?

    Straighten me out. Which of each of the above are actual working sets and not warm-ups?

    then 40 min stair mill

    but legs take 40 min
    I think if you are lifting for intensely, it should not take more than 45 mins ever. Slow and controled down, and power up. Repeat


    In bold above....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    In bold above....
    The thing that has bike pedals that sit at shoulder height that you peday with your hands.
    I had bad slippage in my shoulders when I was younger. This is a great rotator cuff exersise.

    1 warm up set
    2nd set is basically 1 or 2 reps short of failure
    3rd set is to failure
    I will add another set some times heavier in weight

    I really do not train to get size anymore. More for endurance and strength.

    I am 218lbs now @ 6'2 16-17% BF which I am working on mostly at this point, the BF

    When I get 220 plus I start snoring real bad and do not have the endurance that I want

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    bb over head press
    warm up 100
    2nd set 135
    3rd set 155

    DB upright rows
    warm up 50's
    2nd 60's
    3rd 65's

    DB reverse flys
    warm up 25's
    2nd 35's
    3rd 40's

    combo set

    25lbs
    30lbs
    30lbs

    Machine press
    130
    140
    150

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    Ok, well just don't over tire yourself out for your working sets by doing too many reps of warm up sets. Do just enough to get the muscle prepared for the working sets so your energy can go to the sets that are productive. A warm up and working set are two completely different things. With the goals you stated I'd drop back to three exercises for efficiency:

    1. Pressing move of choice
    2. Side laterals
    3. Rear delts

    Maybe even substitute your dumbell rows for rear delts every other workout. Depending on how much weight you use you should be able to get by with a couple warm ups and then two working sets to failure on pressing. Laterals 1 light warm up then launch into two working sets. Rears or upright rows should not require a warm up this far into the workout, IMO>

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Ok, well just don't over tire yourself out for your working sets by doing too many reps of warm up sets. Do just enough to get the muscle prepared for the working sets so your energy can go to the sets that are productive. A warm up and working set are two completely different things. With the goals you stated I'd drop back to three exercises for efficiency:

    1. Pressing move of choice
    2. Side laterals
    3. Rear delts

    Maybe even substitute your dumbell rows for rear delts every other workout. Depending on how much weight you use you should be able to get by with a couple warm ups and then two working sets to failure on pressing. Laterals 1 light warm up then launch into two working sets. Rears or upright rows should not require a warm up this far into the workout, IMO>
    True. But I just cant go very heavy with the front and laterals. It kills my rotator cuffs. So I dont feel like I get much out of them.

    Both my shoulders used to slightly slip out of socket a lot in high school, playing BB or surfing. Shit even reaching in my backseat the f*ckers would slip out. I actually just started doing them agoain a coulple of weeks ago.

    Appreciate the advise brother.

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    Slow and steady then wins this race. Look into MSM powder as a supplement for joint pain. Works great IMO.

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