Should a shoulder workout costing more of riases or presses?

[Blackmambar]

Hi guys,

I posted this before but don't think i got a clear answer and now I cannot find the thread (tried searching for it but it may have been deleted).

Should a shoulder workout consist more on pressing exercises or raises?
Is the side delts the biggest muscle in shoulders, should that be given the most attention via side raises or do presses cover this muscle also?

[Turkish Juicer]

A proper shoulder workout should be a balanced mix of both.

There are only so many pressing exercises you can perform at any rate.

Side raises deserve special attention IMO simply because it is the only exercise that will isometrically target the lateral head delts; whereas, you can at least partially develop front head of delts during non-shoulder exercises too such as incline chest press etc. Same could be said for the rear head of deltoids since its development also requires isolation exercises, otherwise there will not be enough development in that area.

[-KJ-]

A proper shoulder workout should be a balanced mix of both.

There are only so many pressing exercises you can perform at any rate.

Side raises deserve special attention IMO simply because it is the only exercise that will isometrically target the lateral head delts; whereas, you can at least partially develop front head of delts during non-shoulder exercises too such as incline chest press etc. Same could be said for the rear head of deltoids since its development also requires isolation exercises, otherwise there will not be enough development in that area.

Try the one arm dumbbell raise. After laterals as Turkish has said. They give the lateral heads a great pump.
Base put a video of them up.

I like face pulls elbows high to really hit rear delts!!

[Turkish Juicer]

I like face pulls elbows high to really hit rear delts!!

x2.

Perform face pulls for real delts while seated. The amount of weight will decrement; however, seated position improves isolation and helps attain better results...

[-KJ-]

x2.

Perform face pulls for real delts while seated. The amount of weight will decrement; however, seated position improves isolation and helps attain better results...

Never tried seated usually do kneeling in one knee weight drops again but really feel it!

[Armykid93]

OP my shoulder workouts consist of mostly raises but presses are very important imo. I always work from back to front as well. Hitting the rear then side them front delts. I do that because the rear and side tend to get neglected IMO

[RipOwens]

Hell I've never even tried face pulls, I do like reverse flies tho for rear.

[narz]

My shoulder workouts are usualy around 50/50 for presses and raises.

+1 for face-pulls, can really feel the isolation.

[tigerspawn]

You can’t have a complete shoulder work out without both. Presses allow for the maximum amount of resistance to be lifted, which translates into optimal results. Plus presses hit all three heads. Lateral raises help increase shoulder width and help give us that wider thicker look. They are the only deltoid exercise that isolates the medial head. Rear laterals work the entire upper back, rear deltoids and traps. They round out shoulder development and help prevent a lot of shoulder injuries and rotator cuff problems.

[Rwy]

seated face pullls great idea dont know why i didnt think of that.....

[Armykid93]

You can't have a complete shoulder work out without both. Presses allow for the maximum amount of resistance to be lifted, which translates into optimal results. Plus presses hit all three heads. Lateral raises help increase shoulder width and help give us that wider thicker look. They are the only deltoid exercise that isolates the medial head. Rear laterals work the entire upper back, rear deltoids and traps. They round out shoulder development and help prevent a lot of shoulder injuries and rotator cuff problems.

Never heard of a rear lateral. Can you describe it?

[Turkish Juicer]

Never heard of a rear lateral. Can you describe it?

I think he had ''rear shoulder fly'' in mind.

[Armykid93]

I think he had ''rear shoulder fly'' in mind.

Makes sense. Love that exercise