Elbow Pain - Thoughts?

[skyjetcptn]

Hey everyone,

For the last month I've been developing some elbow pain when doing bicep workouts. I do arms about every 6 - 7 days, so the last 4 the pain has been increasing significantly with every consecutive arm day. I'm all natty right now, so I'm not using an performance enhancement for the exception of regular OTC supps (Protein, creatine, etc). The arm day was cut short; I had to leave early, the pain grew too much and I felt as though I was doing more damage than good. The pain is located in my left arm, if you follow the left bicep down the top left side to where it meets the elbow; right at the head of the radius. Its isolated in the bend of the elbow and it feels deep. Its an Achy pain that grows to be almost paralyzing in that arm when exercising my bicep.

Anybody experience this or anybody have some suggestions? I know there are lot of CPT and Trainers on here. Your advice is greatly appreciated.

[skyjetcptn]

Sorry guys, meant to put this in Injuries and Rehab

[drake4243]

I have suffered with bad pretty bad elbow pain. I am a big fan of compression bands it is more than worth a try if I were you. You can pick them up at Home of the Sling Shot with shipping it is only 20 bucks or something and they are a life saver and last forever good luck.

[skyjetcptn]

I have suffered with bad pretty bad elbow pain. I am a big fan of compression bands it is more than worth a try if I were you. You can pick them up at Home of the Sling Shot with shipping it is only 20 bucks or something and they are a life saver and last forever good luck.

Hey Drake,

Thx bro, Ill give them a try. This pain is messing with my gains. I use wraps for leg day, it stands to reason compression bands would help with the elbows.

[hulk1]

Im having the same prob at the moment with my left elbow, im using a compression bands (1 of my squat ones) and it helps big time.But does not fix it all the time. hope this helps

[skyjetcptn]

New taping technique till wraps come in.

Thoughts?

[zevy]

Hey everyone,

For the last month I've been developing some elbow pain when doing bicep workouts. I do arms about every 6 - 7 days, so the last 4 the pain has been increasing significantly with every consecutive arm day. I'm all natty right now, so I'm not using an performance enhancement for the exception of regular OTC supps (Protein, creatine, etc). The arm day was cut short; I had to leave early, the pain grew too much and I felt as though I was doing more damage than good. The pain is located in my left arm, if you follow the left bicep down the top left side to where it meets the elbow; right at the head of the radius. Its isolated in the bend of the elbow and it feels deep. Its an Achy pain that grows to be almost paralyzing in that arm when exercising my bicep.

Anybody experience this or anybody have some suggestions? I know there are lot of CPT and Trainers on here. Your advice is greatly appreciated.

Hi. I suffer from Tennis Elbow in my left arm (pain in outer elbow) and Golfer's elbow in my right (pain in inner elbow).. Both are very painful, especially when lifting using a supinated grip.Lateral Epicondylitis is caused by strain to the tendons and ligaments that join the muscles to the bone causing inflammation and severe ache/pain. There are several exercises that can help but ultimately rest is the advise given by medics. There are many supports and straps on the market to aid in lifting and working with this condition. I find that that concentrating on the bicep when curling and not allowing the wrist to extend back on the negative part of the lift helps a little but I have just learned to live with it.

Link to exercises and more info
http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/a...exercises.aspx

[Combatant]

Hey everyone, For the last month I've been developing some elbow pain when doing bicep workouts. I do arms about every 6 - 7 days, so the last 4 the pain has been increasing significantly with every consecutive arm day. I'm all natty right now, so I'm not using an performance enhancement for the exception of regular OTC supps (Protein, creatine, etc). The arm day was cut short; I had to leave early, the pain grew too much and I felt as though I was doing more damage than good. The pain is located in my left arm, if you follow the left bicep down the top left side to where it meets the elbow; right at the head of the radius. Its isolated in the bend of the elbow and it feels deep. Its an Achy pain that grows to be almost paralyzing in that arm when exercising my bicep. Anybody experience this or anybody have some suggestions? I know there are lot of CPT and Trainers on here. Your advice is greatly appreciated.

You could see a chiropractor, I developed mine from playing baseball but it's the same concept. Sometimes when the ligaments aren't quite warmed up enough and the elbow is overextended a bit the ligament can pop out of the sleeve it runs in on the elbow. This causes inflammation and can be corrected, through patience. Maintain blood flow by doing high rep forearm WO, also see a chiro to try and get that ligament back into the groove. Self massage above and below the area, covering the forearm and lower bi and tri area. Due to the injury your muscles while knot up trying to protect the area but you need to massage it to loosen the area and get blood flow in there. Try to stay away from the anti-inflammatories to because they tend to hinder the healing in the long run.

[ironbeck]

Are u on cycle?

[wizarddeath]

Does the tape really work?

[bass]

Hey everyone,

For the last month I've been developing some elbow pain when doing bicep workouts. I do arms about every 6 - 7 days, so the last 4 the pain has been increasing significantly with every consecutive arm day. I'm all natty right now, so I'm not using an performance enhancement for the exception of regular OTC supps (Protein, creatine, etc). The arm day was cut short; I had to leave early, the pain grew too much and I felt as though I was doing more damage than good. The pain is located in my left arm, if you follow the left bicep down the top left side to where it meets the elbow; right at the head of the radius. Its isolated in the bend of the elbow and it feels deep. Its an Achy pain that grows to be almost paralyzing in that arm when exercising my bicep.

Anybody experience this or anybody have some suggestions? I know there are lot of CPT and Trainers on here. Your advice is greatly appreciated.

you simply need to stay off it, ice it stretch and massage few times a day, it won't go away on its own. you can still workout your biceps without activating the elbow muscles/tendons, simply use wrist bands and cables to do biceps workout. I am going through golfer elbow but still curls 160lbs with cables. here is how,

[zack67360]

After swinging a mallet laying 430 sq ft of hardwood flooring I went right back into my routine at the gym and I severely injured my right elbow. If you have insurance, check into Iontophoresis at a PT/OT service. It's dexamethasone applied to a pad right over the injured tendon and an electric current is applied which drives the steroid into the tendon. It speeds up the healing process, not just a cover up. Helps to have insurance of course, after 4 treatments I rate my pain at 0 when not using it, and a 1 when I do use it and not done yet with the therapy. It was a constant burning pain and was loosing sleep from the pain prior to treatment; and I laid off using it for 3 weeks before breaking down and going to therapy. Have also considered buying a LED infrared light therapy unit for my elbows as I seem to have flare ups of tendonitis every so often. The infrared light was developed by NASA for astronauts to use in space when they get injured. It speeds up collagen production by 400%, speeding up the healing time. Good units are a bit pricey; not sure about how effective the cheap ones on Ebay are. Anodyne makes one that is flexible and goes for $950 new, and a remanufactred unit for $550 (Model 120 home unit). Infrared penetrates the flesh about 1" and works on skin, muscle and connective tissue. Oh, also the stretching techniques help relieve the pain. Heres a good video on the message and stretches. Golfer's Elbow Treatment Program - YouTube Hope this helps.
zack

[RLR]

If I understood which side you meant, it sounds like lateral epicondyle (tennis elbow). If it's on the other side (medial), then it's golfer's elbow. Funny thing, tennis players and golfer's don't get either condition very often. Weightlifters do. I know I have. And other's above mentioned it too. Just do a quick search on google. I can't link because I'm new to this forum, but there are some excellent rehab videos by a chicropractor on youtube. With these types of injuries, resting usually won't solve the problem. You have to rehab.

[bartman314]

i've had both tennis and golfer's elbow at various times. the trick is to nip it in the bud. if it sets in strong, you're going to have to rest (ugh!).

tricks i've learned for nipping it in the bud:

1. make SURE joint is warmed up before lifting (light reps of intended exercise for example)
2. compression (the sleeves are ok, but there are special bands for tendonitis) - compression spreads the stress out around the inflammed area.
3. change exercises - particularly for biceps and back, some grips really irritate the elbow.
4. anti-inflammatories - ice after workout, and lots of vitamin i (ibuprofen) up to 2400 mg/day is safe for most men (if you have an irritable stomach, consult dr).

good luck with it.

[noitangidni]

Hi,

I know I'm probably going to sound redundant, but I hope this helps you. I had issues with shoulder and elbow pain for quite some time and I felt like conventional stretches and warm-ups didn't do enough. It was to the point where barbells affected my bench presses due to shoulder issues (felt more comfortable with dumbbells) and french presses affected my elbows to where I stopped them all together.

I came across soft tissue work (you know, foam rollers and that sort) I started doing this religiously to the point where I was looking for firmer rollers to hit various parts of my body. Months ago I was only hitting major muscles with my foam rollers until I finally came across custom made balls (size of lacross balls) that really helped hit areas where it would be awkward to use with a roller. Places like the epicondyle of the elbow definitely need soft tissue work. I don't know your history, but I can tell you that lifting weights over years causes inflammation in tendons and ligamens (duh!) but they never fully heal. Only to the point where you don't notice them. As your muscles gain in size and strength, your tendons and ligaments have a hard time catching up with them. This is where soft tissue work (aka trigger points) come into play. It took me several months to transition from foam rollers to advanced self trigger point methods, but I can tell you that I am free from pain in those areas now and have no issues using the barbell like before.

Just take it into perspective, we focus time and energy with our workouts, our diet, but most people neglect post-workout therapy, assuming rest is sufficient. I know from experience it will eventually catch up to you. Take the time to do some soft tissue work with your regular routine of R.I.C.E. (rest, ice, compression, elevation) and over time you will be pain free.

[JAMIE07652]

I had to see my orthopedic the pain was that bad . I'm 5 days into a shot of cortisone and it really helped . He said over gripping is the culprit . Im due to do back tomorrow and bought weight straps to help in that area . The the poster above has a great idea on arm days and use wrist straps . Thanks for the tip dude !

[JAMIE07652]

FYI , used my new weight straps today , really helps !

[skyjetcptn]

you simply need to stay off it, ice it stretch and massage few times a day, it won't go away on its own. you can still workout your biceps without activating the elbow muscles/tendons, simply use wrist bands and cables to do biceps workout. I am going through golfer elbow but still curls 160lbs with cables. here is how,

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Thx bro,

This helped a lot... I've been using McDavid straps to alleviate the strain which has helped to some degree, but the wrist strap curls definitely helped with the join pain; allowing me to work out and not loose my gains.

[skyjetcptn]

Does the tape really work?

Not really,

I used tough-skin and KT tape, still sweated it right off. It worked while it was still adhesive.

[skyjetcptn]

Are u on cycle?

No,

Haven't been on in a while, and crap like this is why; join pain from ligs and tendons. Plus I'm still making some Natty gains. I cycled a little too young and with out goo guidance my first few times, so I'm takin my time before going back

[skyjetcptn]

After swinging a mallet laying 430 sq ft of hardwood flooring I went right back into my routine at the gym and I severely injured my right elbow. If you have insurance, check into Iontophoresis at a PT/OT service. It's dexamethasone applied to a pad right over the injured tendon and an electric current is applied which drives the steroid into the tendon. It speeds up the healing process, not just a cover up. Helps to have insurance of course, after 4 treatments I rate my pain at 0 when not using it, and a 1 when I do use it and not done yet with the therapy. It was a constant burning pain and was loosing sleep from the pain prior to treatment; and I laid off using it for 3 weeks before breaking down and going to therapy. Have also considered buying a LED infrared light therapy unit for my elbows as I seem to have flare ups of tendonitis every so often. The infrared light was developed by NASA for astronauts to use in space when they get injured. It speeds up collagen production by 400%, speeding up the healing time. Good units are a bit pricey; not sure about how effective the cheap ones on Ebay are. Anodyne makes one that is flexible and goes for $950 new, and a remanufactred unit for $550 (Model 120 home unit). Infrared penetrates the flesh about 1" and works on skin, muscle and connective tissue. Oh, also the stretching techniques help relieve the pain. Heres a good video on the message and stretches. Golfer's Elbow Treatment Program - YouTube Hope this helps.
zack

Really interesting. Thx so much!

[skyjetcptn]

i've had both tennis and golfer's elbow at various times. the trick is to nip it in the bud. if it sets in strong, you're going to have to rest (ugh!).

tricks i've learned for nipping it in the bud:

1. make SURE joint is warmed up before lifting (light reps of intended exercise for example)
2. compression (the sleeves are ok, but there are special bands for tendonitis) - compression spreads the stress out around the inflammed area.
3. change exercises - particularly for biceps and back, some grips really irritate the elbow.
4. anti-inflammatories - ice after workout, and lots of vitamin i (ibuprofen) up to 2400 mg/day is safe for most men (if you have an irritable stomach, consult dr).

good luck with it.

Vitamin 'I' lol

[bass]

Thx bro,

This helped a lot... I've been using McDavid straps to alleviate the strain which has helped to some degree, but the wrist strap curls definitely helped with the join pain; allowing me to work out and not loose my gains.

you're welcome. glad it helped!

[drake4243]

Hey Drake,

Thx bro, Ill give them a try. This pain is messing with my gains. I use wraps for leg day, it stands to reason compression bands would help with the elbows.

Any chance you have been using those bands at all I am curious to see if you like them as much as I do?

[skyjetcptn]

Any chance you have been using those bands at all I am curious to see if you like them as much as I do?

I'm doing arms tomorrow. Hadn't tried them yet. I'll report back with how they work for me.

Thx again!