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    Interesting scientific find on bodyweight exercises vs. heavy weight work

    Building muscle without heavy weights

    "The perspective provided in this review highlights that other resistance protocols, beyond the often discussed high-intensity training, can be effective in stimulating a muscle building response that may translate into bigger muscles after resistance training," says lead author Nicholas Burd. "These findings have important implications from a public health standpoint because skeletal muscle mass is a large contributor to daily energy expenditure and it assists in weight management. Additionally, skeletal muscle mass, because of its overall size, is the primary site of blood sugar disposal and thus will likely play a role in reducing the risk for development of type II diabetes."

    The authors from McMaster University conducted a series of experiments that manipulated various resistance exercise variables (e.g., intensity, volume, and muscle time under tension). They found that high-intensity muscle contractions derived from lifting heavy loads were not the only drivers of exercise-induced muscle development. In resistance-trained young men a lower workout intensity and a higher volume of repetitions of resistance exercise, performed until failure, was equally effective in stimulating muscle proteins as a heavy workout intensity at lower repetition rates. An additional benefit of the low-intensity workout is that the higher repetitions required to achieve fatigue will also be beneficial for sustaining the muscle building response for days.

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    I'm a big advocate of body weight exercises and just recently increased my weight training rep range to 12 so I really like what this article talks about.

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    The key factor to any exercise routine is INTENSITY, whether that is achieved with high weight low rep, or low weight high rep. There is no way to truly measure intensity other than reaching failure, when you cant do any more you have maxed out intensity.

    I like to do both especially adding weight. I do pushup with a 70lb weighted vest and pullups with a 45lb dip belt. Once you get strong your body weight might not be enough so the added weight bumps up the intensity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellomycognomen View Post
    The key factor to any exercise routine is INTENSITY, whether that is achieved with high weight low rep, or low weight high rep. There is no way to truly measure intensity other than reaching failure, when you cant do any more you have maxed out intensity.

    I like to do both especially adding weight. I do pushup with a 70lb weighted vest and pullups with a 45lb dip belt. Once you get strong your body weight might not be enough so the added weight bumps up the intensity.
    As I've understood it, failure is failure. Muscles push/pull until they cannot anymore. This is what causes strength gains since the body repairs and gets (hopefully)stronger for the next time it's put under the same load. Granted with weights you can get to failure with less reps of course.. but if you don't have a gym or like me, you are limited physically to specific movements, then it's a good way to add a little strength and mass. I don't want to be huge though, so it works for me.

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    I don't think you will ever see the same gains by doing 200 pushups as you would by benching 285x5. I don't think you are tearing down the muscles the same so they won't rebuild the same. Just like someone who does single leg squats with bodyweight only will never have the muscle composition of someone that can squat 400+.

    For size - you will always need more weight. Not saying I don't do some pullups and chinups but that is not close to the extent of my workout.

    You can look good with bodyweight movemetns, don't get me wrong. But, you will never get to your genetic potential...just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett N View Post
    I don't think you will ever see the same gains by doing 200 pushups as you would by benching 285x5. I don't think you are tearing down the muscles the same so they won't rebuild the same. Just like someone who does single leg squats with bodyweight only will never have the muscle composition of someone that can squat 400+.

    For size - you will always need more weight. Not saying I don't do some pullups and chinups but that is not close to the extent of my workout.

    You can look good with bodyweight movemetns, don't get me wrong. But, you will never get to your genetic potential...just my opinion.
    No, no argument there. I don't know what the study consisted of... maybe it was just doing your basic weight training with someone who can't do that much weight on whatever exercises they tested. I do know that Herschel Walker's workout has consisted largely of push-ups for his entire career because when he was younger he couldn't afford weights or a gym. For me personally I'm not that worried about size. The military has used push-ups since there was one, among many other countries so there's nothing wrong with it for me for adding a bit of muscle on. I think much of it comes down to, again... diet!

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    I have heard the same thing about Walter Payton's workout. They said that he used to do box jumps up to a picnic table and run sprints up a very steep grassy hill.

    Have to agree, diet is key to everything to do with body it seems. Wish I could be a ripped 180 and eat pizza every night but it just isn't going to happen. Off to eat my chicken, brown rice and broccolli right now. Typical dinner for me anymore and I've gotten to where it really doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett N View Post
    I have heard the same thing about Walter Payton's workout. They said that he used to do box jumps up to a picnic table and run sprints up a very steep grassy hill.

    Have to agree, diet is key to everything to do with body it seems. Wish I could be a ripped 180 and eat pizza every night but it just isn't going to happen. Off to eat my chicken, brown rice and broccolli right now. Typical dinner for me anymore and I've gotten to where it really doesn't matter.
    I love chicken and brown rice myself

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    Good read thanks guys

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    You also have to consider how each particular muscle fiber responds to different exercises. For most body builders who are looking to maximize muscle mass activating type 2a and type 2b fibers is a must. These are best stimulated with heavy weight, low reps, with failure occurring at around 6-8reps max.

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    If you want size you have to tear up the fast twitch and slow twitch fibers.

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