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    Natty blood work report looking for advice!

    He guys and gals, canít believe Iím back on this board again itís been a long 11 years since I was here but glad to be back!
    Did a few cycles in my mid twenties between 24-26 and havent hit the gym since. But with that said I had my labs done a few months ago the dr saw my results and thought I was taking exogenous testosterone but I havenít taken any in 10-11 years. I am currently back in the gym just taking creatine and protein shakes trying to get back in the groove but my blood test was before starting back to the gym.
    Can Any experts out there explain why my natural test is so high while also having a super high SHBG? Dr said you hardly ever see that in patients, usually if you have a high SHBG patients have low T
    And also my T3 levels were perfect! I was actually going in to see if I could get on hrt but dr would not prescribe with my test being over 1000 ng/dl
    Also my free T was more in the normal to high range but Iím assuming it could be a lot higher if my SHBG wasnít so high? I am currently taking a boron supplement to try to lower my SHBG so my free T (usable) will be higher. Does that makes sense or am I and idiot ? Lol

    Since my natural test is so high would Anavar or another solid oral be ok to take without major shutdown?

    My stats are 5í10Ē 185 8-10% BF

    Thanks everyone!




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    You MIGHT consider low dose proviron to beat down that SHBG, but man, with those numbers, I would be looking for something totally non-suppressive, like maybe boron or something similar. Peep this link at examine https://examine.com/topics/sex-hormo...ding-globulin/ and see if anything tickles your fancy. It is a good jumping off point at least.

    That said, most of us here are not looking to be natty, so if you are just going to jump on gear anyhow, the SHBG will take of itself. But really, I would not fudge with those numbers right now, other than getting SHBG down.

    Edit: I see you are on the boron train already. I would try that for a bit and see if it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    You MIGHT consider low dose proviron to beat down that SHBG, but man, with those numbers, I would be looking for something totally non-suppressive, like maybe boron or something similar. Peep this link at examine https://examine.com/topics/sex-hormo...ding-globulin/ and see if anything tickles your fancy. It is a good jumping off point at least.

    That said, most of us here are not looking to be natty, so if you are just going to jump on gear anyhow, the SHBG will take of itself. But really, I would not fudge with those numbers right now, other than getting SHBG down.

    Edit: I see you are on the boron train already. I would try that for a bit and see if it works.

    Hey thanks for the reply! Yes I sure am on the boron train but how many do I need to take? Currently taking 1 am and 1 pm but can up the dose.
    I have placed an order for some proviron and Anavar and plan to run both for 6-8 weeks and am going to skip running test since my numbers are over 1000 Iíve read that Anavar will help lower the SHGB as well and is easy on the system at a 50mg or so dose per day. Iíve taken it before but it was 10-12 years ago so looking forward to that. As far as my test I was thinking about just bumping 100-200 mg per week while doing it but not sure if that would be more beneficial or detrimental to my system. What say you? I may just run the orals and see how it goes from there. But as far as lowering the SHGB Iím sure that will definitely increase my free test which is the goal here and the proviron working synergistically with the bar and my natural test should provide some good results?

    Iím just not sure why my SHGB is so hi. I donít take any meds cholesterol lipid profile organs functions thyroid are all perfect. I smoke pot and drink occasionally but other than that nothing else.

    With that said do you or anyone reading this have a good online source for blood testing? Without having to go to the dr office all the time?

    Thanks again everyone!

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    No telling why your shbg is like that. Could be genetics, could be diet, could just be your new normal.

    I would not recommend an oral only cycle. Eventually, the anavar will suppress your natty production and will kind of defeat the purpose.

    So yeah, if you are going to cycle, do it right. Do at least a trt level dose of test (the 100 to 200mg per week you mentioned would be fine). I would recommend hcg as well since you will (hopefully) be running a proper pct and want that to be as successful as possible.

    I used a liquid boron at 5mg 2x per day and had ok results. Even 25mg per day of proviron though blows it out of the water, in my experience. If you really want to do an oral only cycle, 25 mg proviron (12.5 mg 2x per day) would be enough to drive down that shbg and PROBABLY not suppress you much at all.

    Blood work.... everybody has their favorite site, mine right now is ultalabtests, though privatemdlabs is good, too. Always look for discount codes wherever you order from.

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    Great advice Cylon. As always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Great advice Cylon. As always.
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