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Barry bonds has been under fire for steroid use. Do yall think he is using? I dont think its fair if he is using, no offense to any one on this board. I mean they didnt have steroids 40 years ago when Maris beat babe ruth and now we have these drugs that enhance your strength which is a major factor in hitting a homerun. If he has been using i think he should get the homerun title taken away!
What do yall think
i think everyone is juicing...even Bush...
~ He could be, but personally i dont think he is, if you look at his career is has been slowly gaining a reasonable amount of weight over the years,when he first came in to the league he was this lil scrawny b*tch, but he has grown at a gradual pace, it is not like he came in after the off season with 30lbs or so of solid mass.~
he was never a scrawny bitch. he always has had some size on him. craig counsel is a skinny bitch, and i dont think hes using. even if he was, i dont think he'd admit it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpunHoney
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Originally Posted by daman1
~I was just listening to what my brother was telling me hehehe!~
Put a 1985 and 2004 Barry Bonds' baseball card side by side and then tell me he has never juiced.
It reminds me of one of those Muscletech ads!
Actually, true he was never a skinny little bitch but he was a lot smaller. He was really good but then for a few years seemed to fall behind. That was when we had mark and the other bigger hr hitters. If you look back you will notice that in a span of about 1-2 years he gained about 40 lbs. His size was not gradual. Yes he was not "skinny" but now he is huge. Possibly he didnt use steroids...but nonetheless be gained a lot of weight and after he did that he got back into the "swing" of things....man i crack myself up
I read in an article he was 186 lbs in his rookie year and that was what 86 or 87. Now hes probably a good 225 or so im guessing. I dont know i think it would be very interesting to see his results on a steriod drug test
You can tell his face is very bloated!! Of course he juices....Just like Sammy and the rest of the boys
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Originally Posted by buylongterm
his bloated face doesnt mean hes juicin
Darn, you beat me too it. I was gonna say the same thing. Do the same thing with Mark Mcguire usa rookie card, to his present card of a few years ago and you will notice a big weight increase over the years. Of course its gonna be done gradually, why would you want to pack on 30/40 pounds in one year. In my opinion, they were doing something. They should take the record away from both of them. They did it to ben johnson when he shattterd the 100 yard dash!!Quote:
Originally Posted by usualsuspect
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YA I think that they all do Bonds, Giambi, shefield.. Like Jose Canseco said alot of players Juice and do HGH..
True, but bro, I hung with him last year at an Allstar party in Chicago. HE is defnitely on the JUICE. I'd bet all my gear on it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by daman1
Come on now people...as juiceheads ourselves spotting another juicer should not be a problem. Coming in off-season 20lbs less than the were during the season. Veins popping out of the forearms just from signing an autograph. Sporting 25 inch necks and bloated moonfaces...Can you say juice?
all of them juice
Bonds and Giambi are juicing like crazy...throw Sosa into it. No doubt about it. And if they had roids in Pumping Iron in the 60-70's they sure as hell had AAS in major sports.
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Originally Posted by SpunHoney
Your brother is right! Back in the late 80's Bonds was scrawny, no doubt in my mind he's on the sauce.
it would amaze you how many people are on steroids in sports, those names are just a few of the many even just in baseball.
Man they're all juicing. In my opinion, why not. Sports are for entertainment and people want to see incredible, not every day feats, performed by super athletes. So what's the alternative to get the job done and get that paycheck...yes you guessed it...steroids.
Leave the athletes alone i say and let them entertain. It's all over jealousy. Like that coach that found the needle and turned it in to the olympic committee. Jealous because his athlete cant keep up? Then do what needs to be done. It's all about personal goals and striving at any cost to achieve them anyways. Leave them alone.
There doing what needs to be done to be as competitive as possible. It's our human nature to be the strongest, fastest, and best at what we do. That's why I do what I do. I want to achieve my peronal goals and be the best in my gym and on my block. Leave me alone. I'll say what I always say to anyones big nose about it. Nunya! None of yo bisnatch!
One of my good friends is a "rookie" for the Atlanta Braves....He signed a contract right out of high school to the farm team. Anyways he has said to me ON SEVERAL occasions that just about ALL(80%) baseball players are involved with Anabolics. I dont know 100% that Barry is juicing, but if i had to guess i would say yes.
IMO - With the amount of money they have waived over their heads to be the best and give a good performance every game - hell yeah. They get the top of the line coaches, gyms, yadayadayada... and they get good sups and drugs. Designer drugs (like THG) are created for them to use and not worry about testing positive for known metabolites. Testosterone can be changed into hundreds of different compunds to produce a new anabolic-androgenic steroid - and they are constently coming up with new designer gear. Where do you think the individuals who make these new compunds get funded? From the demands placed on them by professional athletes...
What is fair and what isn't fair is too grey. I think Ronnie Coleman or Flex Wheeler's genetics aren't fare - but I don't think they should be stripped of their pro cards...
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Originally Posted by Warrior
100% correct my friend.
I think I heard on the news recently that Mark Mcguire was in poor health, that he couldn't even walk anymore under his own power. anyone esle hear of this?
I don't know if Bonds or any other of the major players are....I would bet they are.
But everyone is, even the pitchers, so no need to take his or any other records away
would anyone want to go watch a player who hits 5 home runs a year? NO, Bonds puts fans in the stadium. Everyone wins. players, owners, and fans
Ya man, Ben Johnson pride! Give the medals back to the Canadians you mother****ers IOC!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by XWhiteDenali
You have to remember that 5-7% of the players tested last year tested positive, and they knew in advance that they were going to be tested. I think that a majority of players are probably juicing or were before testing started.
"i think everyone is juicing...even Bush..."
if they arnt, they dam should be, all baseball players should be forced to, baseball is boring enough without removing the homeruns and bench clearing fights....
I dont think hes stupid enought o juice.. with all the money floating around if they find out hes jucing they going to crucify him as the poster child for unsportsman like behavior..
Hey Spun Honey what are ya smoking cause I want some. You don't go from 40 something home runs to 70+. He is a great ball player but it is sooooooo obvious.
i think he is.. See him flip out to reporters, telling everyone to say it to his face, not behind his back.... Thats def a steriod users words... Oh btw, i was watching ladies swimming a year ago and saw this one chick with one swollen ass cheek.. and the other ass cheek was normal.. I though she was hitting in the bum...
This is the best reply I've seen. I always tell people that if a guy at the gym looks like he's on something he is. It is quite obvious to me who is on and who isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by usualsuspect
something that we forget: What kind of endurance does AS give you in the gym?
There's your answer.. Playing 162 games a year...Would AS help you? Dam right it would.
Alot of these players probably take 250mgs a week of test just to help them get by...Some take more, some take less. But most, if not all of them take something....
well they should put like: "Beginning of steriod era" in the record books
my buddy played d2 college football and he tswore that every single player ( kicker included) was on gear