First Cycle Which One?????

hey guys havin a hard time pickin my first cycle i am 21 been training for about 4-5 years not my height is 5"11 and weight is 180lbs what cycle would u recommend out of these 2 for a 1st cycle. i dont mind if i gain a little fat but i would like to put on mass and be able to keep it.

1st cycle

Week 1-4: Dianabol – 30mg daily
Week 1-10: Test C – 400mg weekly
Week 1-10: Novladex – 20mg daily
Week 9-11: HCG- 1000iu weekly
Week 10-12: Clomid – 50mg daily

2nd cycle

week 1-12 Test C - 600mg weely
week 1 - 14 novladex - 20mg daily
week 14 -16 clomid - 70mg daily



which cycle is more effective, will give me more mass and is more likely to be retainable after disconnection.

cycle oe is better of course cause d-bol will jump start ur cycle, but u should start HCG should start @ week 12 since the Test half life is a bout 2 weeks, therefore, there is no point starting HCG at week 9 cause ur system will be still reading Androgen overload and won't start it's natural production yet.

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Originally Posted by smokethedays

cycle oe is better of course cause d-bol will jump start ur cycle, but u should start HCG should start @ week 12 since the Test half life is a bout 2 weeks, therefore, there is no point starting HCG at week 9 cause ur system will be still reading Androgen overload and won't start it's natural production yet.

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ok thnak you bro is hgc required is it necessary some others on this website dont think so what you think?

hcg is the sh** man it restores natural test in no time..that stuff works like a charm I would def. keep that in there...Doing some during the cycle is helpful it you dont want peanut balls IMO

And I dont like the 2nd cycle at all

see if you can get your hands on some deca hit it like 400mg a week add that in there youd like those results on cycle 1.

deca with its longer esters might throw off your pct a week or two

read up on it

And my post before applies more if you use deca it shuts u down hard..just up to you

1st one looks better...