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    9/11 Science vs. Conspiracy Theories

    Ive just watched these 2 videos and its was fascinating, there is some great evidence, when you have time please watch them and tell me what you think and your views on the 9/11 conspiracy theories

    Part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PawC4u1U7k
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG6i6...eature=related

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    Several things smell funny.

    All conspiracy theories and BS aside (because people can debate about that all day) here is what it comes down to.

    1. This is the most secure country in the world. We have google maps. What the hell do you think the gov. has? We can see a pimple on a persons ass.

    2. We had a ton of knowledge and warnings prior to 9/11 and ignored them all.

    3. Who would benefit more from 9/11? Some guys in caves, or the federal government with their patriot act and unwarranted wiretaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanRoss View Post
    Several things smell funny.

    All conspiracy theories and BS aside (because people can debate about that all day) here is what it comes down to.

    1. This is the most secure country in the world. We have google maps. What the hell do you think the gov. has? We can see a pimple on a persons ass.

    2. We had a ton of knowledge and warnings prior to 9/11 and ignored them all.

    3. Who would benefit more from 9/11? Some guys in caves, or the federal government with their patriot act and unwarranted wiretaps?
    Watch the above videos and tell me what you make of them,

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Watch the above videos and tell me what you make of them,
    I've seen them before. I believe it was purely government involvement to get people to submit; to keep them in fear, of their own safety.

    People will give up liberties for securities. It's sad. What's sadder is we know that this is a load of bullshit, and we do NOTHING.

    As long as people have NFL Football and American Idol, nothing will ever be done about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanRoss View Post
    I've seen them before. I believe it was purely government involvement to get people to submit; to keep them in fear, of their own safety.

    People will give up liberties for securities. It's sad. What's sadder is we know that this is a load of bullshit, and we do NOTHING.

    As long as people have NFL Football and American Idol, nothing will ever be done about this.
    Ive seen them before but this one is based on Science,it really is good, its hard to debate with if you dont watch them. When you have time take a look

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Ive seen them before but this one is based on Science,it really is good, its hard to debate with if you dont watch them. When you have time take a look
    Just went through part one and that's always what I've used in my argument; science.

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    marcus even the london bombing are an inside job.Tons of evidence.Even stronger than 9/11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose View Post
    marcus even the london bombing are an inside job.Tons of evidence.Even stronger than 9/11.
    Yes its much worse. The best way to hide something is in broad daylight......Look at the video of the events right before the bombings occured; there are people on standby for the event!!! SUITS! And they act like it was expected. Medical personnel also!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose View Post
    marcus even the london bombing are an inside job.Tons of evidence.Even stronger than 9/11.
    I know all about the London bombings, the 9/11 theories do interest me though

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    So we know what's going on, but we won't do anything about it. This is shameful.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanRoss View Post
    Yes its much worse. The best way to hide something is in broad daylight......Look at the video of the events right before the bombings occured; there are people on standby for the event!!! SUITS! And they act like it was expected. Medical personnel also!
    God them pictures that were never released,of the underground trains.
    Only bombs from underneath could do that effect.This is just one small detail.

    Look.

    Adolf Hilter was the first guy to use these tactics,he did a big inside job on a big opera house bombing,blamed it on the jews for propaganda,this was found out in the 50s....

    Its really like the matrix.I cant believe this is real

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Global Warming is more a threat to liberty and national identity than Terrorism. One World Government or bust is what the elite of the elite are pushing for.
    I'm waiting for the day I see UN Troops marching through the streets for martial law.

    If you see UN Troops, SHOOT THEM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose View Post
    God them pictures that were never released,of the underground trains.
    Only bombs from underneath could do that effect.This is just one small detail.

    Look.

    Adolf Hilter was the first guy to use these tactics,he did a big inside job on a big opera house bombing,blamed it on the jews for propaganda,this was found out in the 50s....

    Its really like the matrix.I cant believe this is real
    V for Vendetta scenario my friend......Something needs to be done, or all hope WILL be lost and it will be too late. The Holocaust is a prime example of something that people thought was impossible; and it happened. That should be a warning to HUMANITY as a WHOLE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I know all about the London bombings, the 9/11 theories do interest me though
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZah2...eature=related

    You will love this

    They found the four black boxes!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanRoss View Post
    I'm waiting for the day I see UN Troops marching through the streets for martial law.

    If you see UN Troops, SHOOT THEM.
    They may have the UN banner but they will be Chinese Troops looking for all the capital Red China has loaned us that will not/cannot ever repay them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    They may have the UN banner but they will be Chinese Troops looking for all the capital Red China has loaned us that will not/cannot ever repay them.
    Yes you are correct; but on the contrary they won't have a problem splitting some of that money with other nations to pop American citizens. Everyone's big rebuttal to the FEMA camps is that no US Soldier would shoot an American! I thought, yes, you're correct......But it won't be US Soldiers. It will be the global elites UN.

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    If you like conspiracies , then download this when you have time . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHiuaGJ46zo
    Most people think your ridiculous for thinking of conspiracies .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dont wanna be old View Post
    If you like conspiracies , then download this when you have time . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHiuaGJ46zo
    Most people think your ridiculous for thinking of conspiracies .
    Great flick, but there are alot of holes in that movie and some inaccurate information.

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    I propose we all go to the Whitehouse, campout, and not leave until we get some questions answered. Let's go hooverville on their asses

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZah2...eature=related

    You will love this

    They found the four black boxes!!
    It was good but started to laugh when he had June Sarpong as one of his investigater's

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    This thread is taking another direction from marcus's original question.

    Being a lover of mathematical sciences, I can tell you I am happy someone on this planet decided to use his mind.
    The problem is not how the twin towers came down but the fact common people ignore the importance of mathematics in our own lifes.
    By making quite simple calculations, and in the video there is some sort of accuracy, it is clear those towers' inner hardware could not be molten.

    9/11 is the perfect example of cause/effect/solution.
    They cause a problem which creates fear in order to carry out a solution.
    This has been done in history many other times and I am afraid it will be done again.

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    Brace yourself fellas for the nay sayers that will tell us we are drinking kool aid, that we're wearing silver hats, ignoring even scientific evidence because facing the truth is so much worse.

    Yep, who cares what is happening when X Factor and Pop Idol are turning everyone into drooling idiots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanRoss View Post
    Great flick, but there are alot of holes in that movie and some inaccurate information.
    You are correct , But really caught my attention and made me think .

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    man great vid iv watched so many like that but these are the best so far . so many people are blind to facts.

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    Lots of good information. I HATE to think that our country is still capable of this backwards mentality. I dont think it's getting any better with Obama though, he is forcing us into 1930s Germany socialism.

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    Do i believe it 9/11 was planned by the government ? No

    Do i believe the government knew there was going to be a attack in general (not 9/11 specific) ? Yes.


    We got caught with our pants down, plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life View Post
    Do i believe it 9/11 was planned by the government ? No

    Do i believe the government knew there was going to be a attack in general (not 9/11 specific) ? Yes.


    We got caught with our pants down, plain and simple.
    You are a mug man!

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    Do you think the truth will ever come out??, thats aimed at those who think the Goverment was involved in these attacks

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Do you think the truth will ever come out??, thats aimed at those who think the Goverment was involved in these attacks
    Yours is a rhetoric question, unfortunately.

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    The truth will never come out!! All these facts that people pass off as theories.

    I live in Australia and the Martin Bryant Massacre in Port Arthur was no crazy guy going off with an AR15 !!! Not possible !!! That day 35 people were killed by a crazy man shooting an AR15 from the hip. 35 people dead yet only shot 27 rounds or something now thats up there with the best marksmanship in the world, CMON!!!

    I no this is nothing compared to trade center but its just another example of a nation being run by its goverment at no cost, What colateral damage.

    http://judicial-inc.biz/port_arthur_massacre.htm

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    i blame marcus for all of this...

    he is somehoiw behind it all....

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    Watched the links and not suprised after everything else iv seen on it, great Doco but, just wish people would listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Do you think the truth will ever come out??, thats aimed at those who think the Goverment was involved in these attacks
    Yeah in like, 200 years time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
    Yeah in like, 200 years time
    Agreed, it will come out but it may be a LONG time before it does and a lot will have to change around here first.

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    All the enron files and other mayor corporation files got destroyed that day supposedly .....

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    no OP the government wasnt involved. Al quada even claimed responsible with a representative arguing against a conspiracist on a news channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevey_6t9 View Post
    no OP the government wasnt involved. Al quada even claimed responsible with a representative arguing against a conspiracist on a news channel.
    Ok fair enough, can you explain the science what was given in the above doc's because the evidence seems to be pushing the other direction greatly.

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    the WTC's were an inside job. theres so much inexplicable shit surrounding that day and every event connected that its undeniable. theres more facts(and theories of course) that make sense to debunk the governments story then to back it up. think about kennedy's assassination ...people just believe what theyve been told because its easier and more comfortable then finding your own answers..especially when they could potentially scare you.
    bottom line is i dont think people can handle the truth. they dont want it, because it conficts with everything they stand for. imagine this broke loose right now. how every soldier would feel defending a country that attacked itself to create a fabricated threat and subsequently start a war in the interests of filling the pockets of a few rich assholes over the blood of the people who give thier lives as patriots for a country that took what they stood for and sold it(along with thier lives) to make a buck. a big buck at that.
    how ****in huge was that run-on sentence eh....goddamn!
    but seriously...how would the country respond to that? would america be strong enough to handle it? how the **** would it be handled?!?! how the ****, could anyone carry on respecting a system thats done them so wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevey_6t9 View Post
    no OP the government wasnt involved. Al quada even claimed responsible with a representative arguing against a conspiracist on a news channel.
    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Ok fair enough, can you explain the science what was given in the above doc's because the evidence seems to be pushing the other direction greatly.
    Yes please, since mathematics is not an opinion, how do you explain "numbers" which show those skyscrapers could not be molten in that way?

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