actually rush formaldehyde/embalmind fluid is PCP. Its actually another slang for it although only true gurus know this ;) formaldehyde has NO effect on people when smoked. This is the result of numerous studies so no matter who tells you otherwise they are wrong...trust me. wet, formaldehyde, embalming fluid etc are all PCP. Even though most people THINK its actually embalming fluid its not...
Ok, so I think we all (sorta) agree that the punishment didn't fit the crime. But the dumb son of a bitch made extremely poor decisions, and it cost him his life. How can you judge those cops based on a video you can watch in slo-mo from the comfort and safety of your home/office? Try to imagine your one of the cops and it's in REAL TIME... I personally would have shot him too... (And then put in a fresh clip and drained it!! I may have stopped short of pistol whipping him afterward...) Not to make light of this dudes death, but you can not deny it's his own damn fault!
BR is right, there are some power trippin-asshole cops out there,,, but I respect cops in general because that is a very stressful and dangerous job.
One more thing, I hope the sarcasm in my earlier post didn't offend anyone too bad... you guys are my brothers and I totally respect each of your opinions...
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Originally posted by ripped4fsu
Ok, so I think we all (sorta) agree that the punishment didn't fit the crime. But the dumb son of a bitch made extremely poor decisions, and it cost him his life. How can you judge those cops based on a video you can watch in slo-mo from the comfort and safety of your home/office? Try to imagine your one of the cops and it's in REAL TIME... I personally would have shot him too... (And then put in a fresh clip and drained it!! I may have stopped short of pistol whipping him afterward...) Not to make light of this dudes death, but you can not deny it's his own damn fault!
BR is right, there are some power trippin-asshole cops out there,,, but I respect cops in general because that is a very stressful and dangerous job.
One more thing, I hope the sarcasm in my earlier post didn't offend anyone too bad... you guys are my brothers and I totally respect each of your opinions...
I do agree that the guy was a one dum motha fucka to point that shit, but there is no explenation for getting shot in the back...either the cops reflexes are slow or they just wanted to express their rage on him...
I think it was fear and adrenaline that made them shoot him. It’s hard to think straight when you are in fear for your life, regardless of training. I have only been that scared maybe twice in my whole life but I remember the feeling all too well. I don’t believe the cops wanted to shoot him, and I'm sure they regretted it after the fact. If you have any conscious at all, taking a life must be hard to deal with. It’s just a shitty situation, but I’ll say it again, he did it to himself.
From what I can see, they didnt shoot him and wait for him to comply.. they shot him till he was dead. It was like they made the decision that it was time for him to die and didn't stop untill he wad dead.
Despite my feelings towards what happened, I will agree that this dude obviously was on something and was feeling like God at the moment. He definatly made some bad decisions, but they should have given a punishment that fit the crime. Despite the fact the police may have been "caught up in the moment" its obvious a tackle/leg sweep or even choke hold would have done just fine, and that 11 rounds to his back was uncalled for.
I think police that kill people on the street should be taken off duty, because there is ALWAYS another way to handle a situation - and if your nerves aren't strong enough to handle a situation like that w/o unloading your 9mm on somoenes back, then you should not yield a badge and call yourself a public safety officer.
Even if they thought what happened was justified, I think it was murder. Why 11 rounds when 1 round would have done? Or like I said, a choke hold or tackle... but whatever.
now again this will probably piss some people off. but I have never ever met a cop that wasnt corrupt. Ive personally known about 12 and have met about 30 and every single one was corrupt and usually nothing more than assholes or bully's. shit like the token system they have in NY. all cops give tokens to thier families so that if they get pulled over they get out of the ticket. Thats illegal and it means you are corrupt. "but its just a perk of the job" well i guess so is jacking a coke dealer and selling the stuff on the side. just a perk. another comment that pisses me off is "we put our lives on the line every day and get paid shit" well QUIT! nobody forces you to take the job. you get paid for it, now do your job. its the same with teh smucks that take the money for the Natl gaurd and then refuse to fight. not to mention 99% of all police never "put their lives on the line" they write traffic tickets for some shithole little speed trap town. Another good one is " I deal with criminals and human trash every day" no you don't you deal with suspects and citizens. contrary to poplular opinion you are not a judge and jury. only they can determine guilt and give punishment. you are no better than me or anybody else.
sorry if this offends, but this is a personal pet peeve. ive had my chops busted for years by cops for no reason other than being a long-haired kid in rural La. things like illegal car-searches were common. We need to enforce the concept that police have no extra rights than the rest of us (other than the ability to apprehend and cite). and if I would go to jail in a particular situation, then the cop should too AND he or she should get a stiffer sentense since they are supposed to represent the people and its values such as justice and the constitution.
oh and a little comment, while the guy was probably drunk, just because he didnt go down immediately doesnt mean a thing. hell my father was shot in the leg once and didnt know for 30 min, and he wasnt on anything. he just itched. its amazing was adrenaline will do. unless you hit a kill spot (heart, brain) the guy may not go down immediately. kind of like the guy that just amputated his oown arm and rapeled down a mountain. now thats tough!
Im RIGHT there with you Jeffylyte... its been my experience that cops all have authority complexs, small man syndrom or something simuliar, none of them are "normal" by means.
Corrupted to say the least. I personally had my nose broken by a "under cover" cop who told me to turn around and put my hands behind my back and I asked to see a badge before I complied. For all I know, he coulda been some thief posing as cop.. sec I turn around he could shanked my ass. So, I got punched in the face, he broke my nose - cuffed me, let me bleed for 30 minutes before putting me in the back of car. Then he proceeded to tell the judge, and everyone else for the matter, that I tried to fight him and that my nose was broke when he gained control of me and put my head in the dirt to handcuff me.
....tell me cops aren't corrupted and I'll laugh in yours face
Ya.. life Jeff said again, just cuz he didnt go down doesnt mean shit. Cops have 9mm, aint much better then a 22mm if you know ur shit. You can easilly survive getting shot a dozen times by a 9mm. However, I still think he was on something by the way he was acting.
jeffylyte---I'm right there with you too...Ive seen cops do so much uneccesery shit, to my friends, my dad and me...they are just covered with that"authority" feeling and think they can do anything. When my friend cut some ones hair in school(he was 12) the cops showed up and took to the police station, the cop locked him up in a fucking closet...my friends parents suid him for that...another case of my other friend, they were fooling around and broke a window in a store, the got busted and beat up...same cop again, got sueid...when i was just 15 a cop wanted to kick my ass, we were smoke some good shit, people called the cops on us from making to much noise cops showed up, started making a mess waving hand and shit grabbing us and pulling us away, so i started taking shit, wtf is he touching me in the first place? He grabbed me and took me behind the appt building and said that he will kick my ass right there and no one would be able to prove it...thank god my friends showed up, i dont what couldve happened...I have many many stories...
I don't think "ALL" cops are corrupt, but I do agree that a lot of them are. I too have been harrassed by cops over the years, but I also play racquetball with 3 cops that are truly good dudes. You guys are also right that the guy may not have been on anything. there was a case in N Carolina a few years back where a cop emptied his clip into a guy from about 20 feet, and the dude was STILL trying to dig his rifle out of the tool box. I personally think the 9mm is a worthless weapon when it comes to stopping power. Since the human body is composed of mostly water, the shock value created by a 45, 357 or 44mag will usually take a person down with one shot, even in non-vital areas.
I'm not a big fan of cops, but they are a necessary evil.
~R
I would of done the same thing...but i wouldnt of even let the crack head out of his car....shoot first ask questions later. You make your own bed, and he made his....death bed that is. He should of just pulled up his pants like they asked him to, and none of this would of happened:lol:
I agree that not all cops are corrupt. I personally know a handfull of decent ones. I have met a lot of cops in my day, and I will say from experience that the majority of cops Ive encountered are ignorant assholes. NOT ALL, BUT YES MOST. Ive been hit by cops when I was in handcuffs and leg irones. Ive seen cops take guys in handcuffs and leg irons into rooms and when they come out 10 minutes later the prisioner is all bloody in the face and struggling to walk. Its always the people with the most power who want more...and who think they automatically deserve respect because they wear a badge. I personally dont give a fuck if your a cop, firefighter, terrorist, teacher or whatever the hell you do...I NEVER give respect outright, it must always be earned. And like I said I only know a handfull of cops whom I respect.
peace
SWEET...jsut the fact that he had on thoser big ass pants pulled down around his ass is reason enough for those fine officers to use such tactics......justice! That is doing the Lord's work!
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Originally posted by BamaSlamma
SWEET...jsut the fact that he had on thoser big ass pants pulled down around his ass is reason enough for those fine officers to use such tactics......justice! That is doing the Lord's work!
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Speaking as an ex-cop myself, from what I've seen in the video the guy was armed and made a move to make the policemen assume that it was threatening. You can't wait until a perpetrator use deadly force. It's either you or them and the one who pulls the trigger first often has the upper hand of the matter.
Come to think about it, I worked in the state of Louisiana and I remember that Shreveport was probably the worst city in the state when it came down to gang crimes.
Were you a State Trooper? Yes, you are right, Shreveport has alot of "ghetto" crimes...like drive by shootings, armed robberies, car jacking, gang activity, etc. You would never know that by just driving through though...downtown is really nice with several clubs and big name casinos...its a pretty fun place to party, at least for North LA...also, Shreveport has many very nice neighborhoods. Their are also several PGA pros living their as well, but like any larger city, you have your bad areas too.Quote:
Originally posted by TheChosen1
Come to think about it, I worked in the state of Louisiana and I remember that Shreveport was probably the worst city in the state when it came down to gang crimes.