Honesty the Best Policy?

[ArmWrestler Dude]

i just wanted to share an experience with the board.

when i was getting ready to start my first cycle about a month ago, the issue of coming clean to the mother of my children was important to me. we are not married, but have been together for 11 straight years, have 2 kids together and sleep in our own home together. i've always had this problem with telling the truth, even if it hurts myself and/or others. i call it "brutal honesty," and i'm known for it.
we were chilling out in the bedroom, just being lazy. laying around and talking. i got this lump in my throat and i knew i was getting ready to spill the beans. once i feel this, it's only a matter of seconds before i open my mouth and start talking. so i did. out of nowhere, i said - "i'm getting ready to do something and i want to be honest with you about it." naturally, she was a little worried and awaited what i had to say. "i'm getting ready to start taking testoterone injections every week. i want you to support me." she actually breathed a HUGE sigh of relief. i'm sure she thought it'd be something else. we talked about possible side effects, and whatever else i knew could come along with it. that includes mood, hair, titties, body size and sex drive. she took it all in, and accepted it. when i received my test cypionate, guess who shot 500mg into my right buttcheek? that's right. my woman. i guess she does love me! but i already knew that.

reason im writing this is because i feel that theres a lot of dudes out there that probably hide their gear usage in fear or repercussions from the wifey (or hubby). it's my honest opinion that if you have found a partner in life that loves and respects you and the choices you make, having to hide and lie should not be an issue. honesty is always the best avenue. they should respect your goals, as you should respect theirs.

[tigerspawn]

It depends. Do you trust that person to keep your secrets no matter what? If you do than tell them. I don't use but plan on it. I am not going to tell my GF. What would happen if she knew then and told my place of work. I could lose my job and be black listed. I can't afford to have that happen.

[austinite]

No, honesty is not the best policy here. If you feel so guilty, then it's better that you just don't do it at all. Forget cycling and keep your peace of mind.

Otherwise, deny deny deny.

[SexySweetheart]

it sure is a tricky topic ...

[Times Roman]

I'm of two minds on the subject. My initial reaction is what Austinite just said. Better to remain covert.

But on the other hand, at least for now, you took a chance and it came out alright.

Having said that, I've read more than one thread here where others have taken a similar course, told their partners, things were good, and then they broke up. Your aas useage could become your kryptonite and be used against you.

You never really know what the future has in store you, and if you do have potential kryptonite, I'd suggest to others reading this, it is better to keep your kryptonite hidden.

My situation is a little different. She knows about my testosterone therapy, and knows I self inject. I have a prescription for it, and it is blessed by my Kaiser doc/endo. And we talk about my trt, so she's good with that piece. What I wont tell anyone is the other piece.

[austinite]

Majority of of times that I've seen people tell their partners and they are OK with it... eventually it goes sour. Anything and everything that goes wrong going forward, will most likely be blamed on steroids. So you better not ever get into an argument.

[Times Roman]

Majority of of times that I've seen people tell their partners and they are OK with it... eventually it goes sour. Anything and everything that goes wrong going forward, will most likely be blamed on steroids. So you better not ever get into an argument.

This is most definitely the case. There are so many perception issues about aas useage, and so much ignorance out there....

....it's just not a socially acceptable thing to do.

And I think we sometimes forget that in here.

[diesel101]

11 years and 2 kids with no wedding ring! That's one patient woman!

[Times Roman]

11 years and 2 kids with no wedding ring! That's one patient woman!

after a certain point in time, the marriage license really doesn't change much....


...the honeymoon is over! =)

[ArmWrestler Dude]

agreed!

[ArmWrestler Dude]

the kryptonite angle is a good one to think about. honestly, i hadn't thought about that as a possibility until you typed it out. now i do. i appreciate all the feedback. gives me some knew knowledge for the arsenal up top. thanks everyone!

[JAB1]

Tough Question for sure. Its good to be honest, but that can be later held against you. I told my wife and she was supportive. Love is a gamble and Im all in, so if it backfires thats the way it goes. On a side note, my wife is a little tooo supportive. I dont want anyone else to know. We were at dinner with her folks one night, and they were talking about a friend of theirs who is a former bodybuilder and acknowleged user. He was have some wife issues or something and they mentioned his aas use as a reason for their problems. My wife got defensive and lectured them on their false information on aas. Im sure they are suspicious anyway, but at that point the looked at us both and said "how do you know so much about it". Awkward for sure.

[BluPhin]

I agree with Roman. AAS is not socially acceptable and generally misunderstood outside of groups like this forum. Information is only good for people when they are capable of making sense of it or applying it. My wife hears about steroids on TV and she associates this with savage, brute men that are violent and abusive. She considers me to be a loving, caring husband and father. But if she found out that I was using steroids, then every time I may get upset or angry about something, she would blame my steroid use on these normal emotions.

[Times Roman]

I think general information at this point might be the best policy.

she knows you work out, so be clear that you are taking supplements. Discuss things like creatine, protein powder, and maybe even peptides that you have to inject. (that's another thing my family knows is that I inject peptides).

Avoid the use of the word "steroid".

If you have to, tell her you think your testosterone levels are too low and you will be supplementing with that too.

I know, too late already. but you have to think these things through and entertain the idea of multiple possible outcomes in the long run.

[bdos]

My partner knows of my previous use and is fine with it she works long hours and by the time shes home im either already in bed or asleep, she even says she wish's i was back on just so id stay up and use the extra libido.

[Times Roman]

My partner knows of my previous use and is fine with it she works long hours and by the time shes home im either already in bed or asleep, she even says she wish's i was back on just so id stay up and use the extra libido.

sounds like a job for TB500!

know anything about this peptide?

[bdos]

sounds like a job for TB500!

know anything about this peptide?

Thats a Negative TR.

[austinite]

http://forums.steroid.com/igf-1-lr3-...b-500-log.html

[bdos]

Cheers austin just found it.

[Lunk1]

I absolutely applaud you for the way you handled the situation. Sound very similar to the conversation my wife and I had. Only she said "as long as I don't have to inject you" lol

[tigerspawn]

Austinite that is the hottest picture of her that I have seen.

[tigerspawn]

I've read more than one thread here where others have taken a similar course, told their partners, things were good, and then they broke up. Your aas useage could become your kryptonite and be used against you.

You never really know what the future has in store you, and if you do have potential kryptonite, I'd suggest to others reading this, it is better to keep your kryptonite hidden.

That exactly how I feel. If you have dirt on them that would ruin them if it got out then feel free to tell them your secrets. Women have tendency to use things that you have done or said against you forever. If they didn't rehash things I would have no trouble telling them everything.

[Times Roman]

Thats a Negative TR.

http://forums.steroid.com/igf-1-lr3-...b-500-log.html

I did say TB500, didn't I?

...what's wrong with you blokes?

...you should have known I meant PT141?? =)

so back to you bdos900, know anything about PT141?

[bdos]

I did say TB500, didn't I?

...what's wrong with you blokes?

...you should have known I meant PT141?? =)

so back to you bdos900, know anything about PT141?

I read all that for nothing?! Jks very helpful i have some issues with my left rotor cuff. Thats a no again.

[tdoe11]

Austin made a comment about every argument being blamed on aas. I can vouch for that one. My wife is supportive but arguments are always my fault. She listens to me rambling about fitness, diet, aas daily. Thank God I can tell her. That being said my situation is kinds unique. Me and my wife both got sober together, we have a little over 7 years clean each. So getting testosterone prescribed to me was no biggie. We both live a very active fitness life. If it was a girlfriend or similar it's a no brainer to keep it to myself. My business is my business. My wife and my workout partner (also cycles) ate my two confidants. Other than that I deny. You can work your butt off waking up before the sun to work out daily, have a perfect diet, do tons of cardio etc. as soon as you are taking aas you are completely dis credited and the juice did all the work. Such Crap

[--->>405<<---]

well it certainly is convenient for u to say "honesty is the best policy" considering there was no problem with ur honesty. the real tester would have been if she freaked out and gave u some sort of guilt trip or ultimatum. my guess then is u would be singing a different tune.

also just because shes willing to give u a shot of steroids in ur butt does not mean she loves u..

im sure ur happy that ur woman doesnt give a crap about something u thought u may have conflict from, but that doesnt mean that u have discovered any enlightening wisdom. to say conclusively because ur woman responded a certain way that all men should adopt ur philosophy would only make logical sense if every man was dating your woman..

in conclusion i would like to say i believe honesty is the best policy, but not because my wife doesnt give me conflict due to my honesty, but more so because thats what solid relationships are built on. lying, IMO, is like having ur woman think u are someone u are not.. who wants to be with a woman they cant be themselves around?? not me.. i may hear a fair share of bitching but at least i know im being true to myself and our relationship..

[ArmWrestler Dude]

well it certainly is convenient for u to say "honesty is the best policy" considering there was no problem with ur honesty. the real tester would have been if she freaked out and gave u some sort of guilt trip or ultimatum. my guess then is u would be singing a different tune.

also just because shes willing to give u a shot of steroids in ur butt does not mean she loves u..

im sure ur happy that ur woman doesnt give a crap about something u thought u may have conflict from, but that doesnt mean that u have discovered any enlightening wisdom. to say conclusively because ur woman responded a certain way that all men should adopt ur philosophy would only make logical sense if every man was dating your woman..

in conclusion i would like to say i believe honesty is the best policy, but not because my wife doesnt give me conflict due to my honesty, but more so because thats what solid relationships are built on. lying, IMO, is like having ur woman think u are someone u are not.. who wants to be with a woman they cant be themselves around?? not me.. i may hear a fair share of bitching but at least i know im being true to myself and our relationship..

Actually, the title reads - "honesty the best policy?"

Notice the question mark at the end. It was an opening for discussion, not for dropping some 'enlightening wisdom" - as you so eloquently suggested.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, regardless. I respect it.

[austinite]

Actually, the title reads - "honesty the best policy?"

Notice the question mark at the end. It was an opening for discussion, not for dropping some 'enlightening wisdom" - as you so eloquently suggested.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, regardless. I respect it.

it's my honest opinion that if you have found a partner in life that loves and respects you and the choices you make, having to hide and lie should not be an issue. honesty is always the best avenue. they should respect your goals, as you should respect theirs.

Not that I care, but you did.... Either way, to each his own. Everyone just needs to do what they feel is best for them. No one's experience will apply to everyone.

[ArmWrestler Dude]

Not that I care, but you did.... Either way, to each his own. Everyone just needs to do what they feel is best for them. No one's experience will apply to everyone.

DAMMIT, YOU'RE RIGHT! I guess dropping enlightenment snuck up on me today. No harm no foul. As you were. Nothing to see here. LMFAO.

Sorry guys it's late here in CA.

[--->>405<<---]

Not that I care, but you did.... Either way, to each his own. Everyone just needs to do what they feel is best for them. No one's experience will apply to everyone.

^^what he said..

Actually, the title reads - "honesty the best policy?"

Notice the question mark at the end. It was an opening for discussion, not for dropping some 'enlightening wisdom" - as you so eloquently suggested.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, regardless. I respect it.

i appreciate ur appreciation for my opinion, which is all it is.. and i stand behind it..

[ArmWrestler Dude]

^^what he said..


i appreciate ur appreciation for my opinion, which is all it is.. and i stand behind it..

I can appreciate that.

[austinite]

i appreciate ur appreciation

I can appreciate that.

Much appreciated.