Columbus

[Obs]

They are attacking christopher columbus now as a slave trader and perpetrator of mass genocide. Los Angeles is removing his holiday and casting him out as a piece of shit.

They are disposing of history they don't like and rewriting it as they see fit. The level of stupid has reached a whole new level. The founding fathers will be next. Tolerance is the root of this. People are being forced to accept all that they might disagree with because of convictions or religion or character.

I don't even know why I am posting this. These snowflakes will stop at nothing until everyone has no free speech or opinion.
Disgusting little degenerates.

Whats next? Take down the Winston Churchill memorial because he seemed chauvanistic? This is not the place I grew up in at all. Morality in general is being degraded to a crime because of this waste.
You have my permission to read this with a Jack Nicholson narrative.

[thegodfather]

They are in a spiral of victimhood mentality. These people have been led to believe they are more virtuous and intelligent than the rest of the country. They believe they are the new enlightened class in our society. They have a complete intolerance of counter factuals, and they believe that to disagree with them is to be a <insert derogatory label here>.

This is fine though. The more that they continue to speak down to 63 million voting Americans, the longer they will continue to lose elections. Already, CNN is identifying the massive amounts of violence perpetrated by Antifa, as it's gotten too big to ignore.

[tarmyg]

Columbus, we are talking about the guy who thought he discovered India but sailed the wrong way? If this is something you guys got time to spend on mentally I am starting to wonder who is a snowflake and got to much time on their hands.

Obs, are you on Tren again?

[Obs]

Columbus, we are talking about the guy who thought he discovered India but sailed the wrong way? If this is something you guys got time to spend on mentally I am starting to wonder who is a snowflake and got to much time on their hands.

Obs, are you on Tren again?

You needn't be concerned, your country is already fucked.

[tarmyg]

You needn't be concerned, your country is already fucked.

USA is fucked?

[Obs]

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[Obs]

USA is fucked?

But yes, the way it is going the US is completely fucked.

[thegodfather]

Does this effect your country? No? This is our history, we will revere it however we please.

Columbus, we are talking about the guy who thought he discovered India but sailed the wrong way? If this is something you guys got time to spend on mentally I am starting to wonder who is a snowflake and got to much time on their hands.

Obs, are you on Tren again?

[tarmyg]

Haha. I am from upstate NY, just happen to live in Bangalore but good to know where you guys are at.

[DocToxin8]

Recent developments over here has made Antifa catch my eye as well.
They clearly are just as fascist (or more) than whatever "injustice" they seem to think is there.
When we discussed it in our Historical European Martials Arts club, where someone had allready been targeted by Antifa because
quote "it didn't look good that he was white and wore runic inscriptions" as someone from Antifa had put it, well we don't take that overly well.
On the other hand some of our more peaceful members underlined that Antifa doesn't have structured group as such, no registry of members and so on.
This, you can expect the one you'll hear from is the totally spaced out ones,
and hopefully not even the majority within Antifa.
And even if you label the entire Antifa as hypocrites and warmongers, how many is that really?

So i understand Tarmygs view on the matter; is it something to worry THAT much about?
Faced with this shit myself, I admit, it pisses me off immensely,
and really makes me wanna go on crusade against the stupid fucks.
This reaction isn't very smart in itself though.
My conclusion is that stupid begets stupid reactions, or at least an overkill of a reaction.

But that's easy to say while over here, we are just starting to see the Antifa BS and so on, you in the US has had it for a while now
And if I allready start to think about crusading over what little we've felt here,
I can totally understand you're being ready to march in the US.

Will say this though, the problem seldom is as big as it seems.
As mentioned, this will be noticed by people of reason and there will eventually rise a movement against it, hopefully an enlightened one.


Last words on the matter;
Over here we always like to take credit for discovering the Americas before Columbus, as Leif Eriksson expedition went there and according to the sagas established a colony, and also fought with the natives,which they described as "Skraelinger", a clearly derogatory name, which by today's language would mean "scrawny/weak people".

I wonder what would happen if Antifa were to propose that what Leif Eriksson did was the racist and therefore wanted to remove any statues of him.
(Not that I know of any)
That would not go down well.

This entire thing is so strange, do these people expect history to be a nice little fairytale?

[Capebuffalo]

They are attacking christopher columbus now as a slave trader and perpetrator of mass genocide. Los Angeles is removing his holiday and casting him out as a piece of shit.

They are disposing of history they don't like and rewriting it as they see fit. The level of stupid has reached a whole new level. The founding fathers will be next. Tolerance is the root of this. People are being forced to accept all that they might disagree with because of convictions or religion or character.

I don't even know why I am posting this. These snowflakes will stop at nothing until everyone has no free speech or opinion.
Disgusting little degenerates.

Whats next? Take down the Winston Churchill memorial because he seemed chauvanistic? This is not the place I grew up in at all. Morality in general is being degraded to a crime because of this waste.
You have my permission to read this with a Jack Nicholson narrative.

Churchill was British.

[Sh0tsf1red]

I demand all statues of Colonel Sanders be removed and destroyed!!!

[tarmyg]

Churchill was British.

Dont get bogged down in details now!

[Obs]

Churchill was British.

We have a memorial to him in Fulton Mo Cape. That is also where most of my ancestry settled. Believe me I know history and Churchill very well.

This entire subject was started over an Italian explorer that we honor in the US. Well, we did...

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[Obs]

Dont get bogged down in details now!

I would prefer you keep your smart ass mouth to the competition thread and dont trash my more serious threads. You have said your piece now move on.

[Capebuffalo]

We have a memorial to him in Fulton Mo Cape. That is also where most of my ancestry settled. Believe me I know history and Churchill very well.

This entire subject was started over an Italian explorer that we honor in the US. Well, we did...

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You drink tea instead of coffee don't you?

[Obs]

Recent developments over here has made Antifa catch my eye as well.
They clearly are just as fascist (or more) than whatever "injustice" they seem to think is there.
When we discussed it in our Historical European Martials Arts club, where someone had allready been targeted by Antifa because
quote "it didn't look good that he was white and wore runic inscriptions" as someone from Antifa had put it, well we don't take that overly well.
On the other hand some of our more peaceful members underlined that Antifa doesn't have structured group as such, no registry of members and so on.
This, you can expect the one you'll hear from is the totally spaced out ones,
and hopefully not even the majority within Antifa.
And even if you label the entire Antifa as hypocrites and warmongers, how many is that really?

So i understand Tarmygs view on the matter; is it something to worry THAT much about?
Faced with this shit myself, I admit, it pisses me off immensely,
and really makes me wanna go on crusade against the stupid fucks.
This reaction isn't very smart in itself though.
My conclusion is that stupid begets stupid reactions, or at least an overkill of a reaction.

But that's easy to say while over here, we are just starting to see the Antifa BS and so on, you in the US has had it for a while now
And if I allready start to think about crusading over what little we've felt here,
I can totally understand you're being ready to march in the US.

Will say this though, the problem seldom is as big as it seems.
As mentioned, this will be noticed by people of reason and there will eventually rise a movement against it, hopefully an enlightened one.


Last words on the matter;
Over here we always like to take credit for discovering the Americas before Columbus, as Leif Eriksson expedition went there and according to the sagas established a colony, and also fought with the natives,which they described as "Skraelinger", a clearly derogatory name, which by today's language would mean "scrawny/weak people".

I wonder what would happen if Antifa were to propose that what Leif Eriksson did was the racist and therefore wanted to remove any statues of him.
(Not that I know of any)
That would not go down well.

This entire thing is so strange, do these people expect history to be a nice little fairytale?

Regardless of the size of the group, governments are clearly siding with them. The problem is very regionalized and most of these kinds of problems come from places like New York, California, and Massachusetts.

The thing to worry about is they are literally getting what they want, which is a country void of any free speech. They want their "safe space" to be all over the country.

[Obs]

You drink tea instead of coffee don't you?

Having coffee now. I am southern by birth. My tea has sugar and ice.

[thegodfather]

I have to call the bluff on the FAKE OUTRAGE over this. It was not offensive for the past 241 years, and all of a sudden in 2017 its a big deal? Bullshit. This is an intentional dig at conservatives just for the sake of further dividing our country and controlling the narrative. Shove the virtue signalling up your cultural Marxist asses.

[songdog]

Well it's been proven that he was't the 1st to discover America so that should've been taken out of the books.But hey who's next I could be wrong but didn't Washington own Slaves?

[MuscleScience]

Well it's been proven that he was't the 1st to discover America so that should've been taken out of the books.But hey who's next I could be wrong but didn't Washington own Slaves?

Aristotle and Socrates owned slaves too, let's burn their works and strike their names from the record books!

[Capebuffalo]

Aristotle and Socrates owned slaves too, let's burn their works and strike their names from the record books!

Oh just wait. The book burning will not be far behind. It's like watching Germany pre WWII.

[MuscleScience]

I have to call the bluff on the FAKE OUTRAGE over this. It was not offensive for the past 241 years, and all of a sudden in 2017 its a big deal? Bullshit. This is an intentional dig at conservatives just for the sake of further dividing our country and controlling the narrative. Shove the virtue signalling up your cultural Marxist asses.

This is all a page out of the Fascist/Marxist/communist play book.

Stalin erased all cultural and religious identity from Russia. Mao did the same in China with his cultural revolution. Ho Chi Ming did the same in Vietnam, Castro in Cuba, Pol Pot in Cambodia and now here in Western Europe and The USA.

It's so crystal clear what the end came is. Nobody could defeat the West in battle so instead they started destroying it from within. It's rather brilliant actually.

[kelkel]

I find it funny. They're removing statues of CC basically due to the way he treated indigenous people. But historically even the indigenous tribes would battle between themselves and the winner would routinely take slaves from the losing tribe, particularly women and children. Guess they didn't read that in their abridged version of history....

[thegodfather]

I find it funny. They're removing statues of CC basically due to the way he treated indigenous people. But historically even the indigenous tribes would battle between themselves and the winner would routinely take slaves from the losing tribe, particularly women and children. Guess they didn't read that in their abridged version of history....

Yes I brought this point up earlier in another conversation. Lets not pretend one has moral superiority over the other.

From the late eighteenth century through the end of the Civil War, Choctaw and Chickasaw Indians bought, sold, and owned Africans and African Americans as slaves, a fact that persisted after the tribes' removal from the Deep South to Indian Territory. The tribes formulated racial and gender ideologies that justified this practice and marginalized free black people in the Indian nations well after the Civil War and slavery had ended. Through the end of the nineteenth century, ongoing conflicts among Choctaw, Chickasaw, and U.S. lawmakers left untold numbers of former slaves and their descendants in the two Indian nations without citizenship in either the Indian nations or the United States. In this groundbreaking study, Barbara Krauthamer rewrites the history of southern slavery, emancipation, race, and citizenship to reveal the centrality of Native American slaveholders and the black people they enslaved.(krauthammer, et.al)

[clarky.]

Ohhb, Euro would like this thread.

[RaginCajun]

Ohhb, Euro would like this thread.

hahahahahaha

yes he would!

[clarky.]

hahahahahaha

yes he would!

Not seen him on for a good while, him and Marcus must be away fishing together.

[cousinmuscles]

Aristotle and Socrates owned slaves too, let's burn their works and strike their names from the record books!

Actually mostly works written in stone are preserved. The library of Alexandria was burned several times. Some of the times because the works went against religions, other times because competing cultures found them to be in opposition to their expansion.

Does anyone even know who Socrates was? Such a popular figure but there is good reason to believe he was made up for good purposes in texts.

[RaginCajun]

Not seen him on for a good while, him and Marcus must be away fishing together.

that is exactly what is going on here!!!

[kelkel]

Not seen him on for a good while, him and Marcus must be away fishing together.

Yes, in Canada staying with Mickey Knox.

[MuscleScience]

Actually mostly works written in stone are preserved. The library of Alexandria was burned several times. Some of the times because the works went against religions, other times because competing cultures found them to be in opposition to their expansion.

Does anyone even know who Socrates was? Such a popular figure but there is good reason to believe he was made up for good purposes in texts.

Ok, Plato and Aristotle

[cousinmuscles]

Ok, Plato and Aristotle

hehe it was not an attack, actually I just mentioned it as a fun fact.

[Obs]

I have to call the bluff on the FAKE OUTRAGE over this. It was not offensive for the past 241 years, and all of a sudden in 2017 its a big deal? Bullshit. This is an intentional dig at conservatives just for the sake of further dividing our country and controlling the narrative. Shove the virtue signalling up your cultural Marxist asses.

Agree fully. The little shits will just say its 241 years they have been opressed!
I will quit bitching as soon as I see government intervention in the vandalism of public property. I don't see any statues going back up. Its all just history being taken down because of minorities of minorities. These people aren't offended. They are just needing something to follow and jumping at the chance to fling their feces in outrage like an animal.

You can see it in their faces when they beat up a news reporter etc.. They are pack animals. The most ignorant of the group squawks and riles up the others and pretty soon its a half dozen pieces of shit beating up a scrawny ass reporter or defacing a statue.
"What are we gonna do about this opression!!!!????"

All the little retards perk up their ears and honestly ask themselves that then the loud squawk tells the retards what they need to do. They jump at the chance to act violent for any reason because they are dogs following the leader of the retard pack.

[BG]

Not seen him on for a good while, him and Marcus must be away fishing together.

Marcus is Euro and Sil...........

[crazy_rocks]

Columbus, we are talking about the guy who thought he discovered India but sailed the wrong way? If this is something you guys got time to spend on mentally I am starting to wonder who is a snowflake and got to much time on their hands.

Obs, are you on Tren again?

He sailed west as intended.

[crazy_rocks]

Well it's been proven that he was't the 1st to discover America so that should've been taken out of the books.But hey who's next I could be wrong but didn't Washington own Slaves?

As far as him being the first to discover America yeah it should be changed but the new world was pretty much unknown except to rumors. Christopher Columbus made it known to the world and the people before him did not. It was far more significant than those before him.

[songdog]

Recent developments over here has made Antifa catch my eye as well.
They clearly are just as fascist (or more) than whatever "injustice" they seem to think is there.
When we discussed it in our Historical European Martials Arts club, where someone had allready been targeted by Antifa because
quote "it didn't look good that he was white and wore runic inscriptions" as someone from Antifa had put it, well we don't take that overly well.
On the other hand some of our more peaceful members underlined that Antifa doesn't have structured group as such, no registry of members and so on.
This, you can expect the one you'll hear from is the totally spaced out ones,
and hopefully not even the majority within Antifa.
And even if you label the entire Antifa as hypocrites and warmongers, how many is that really?

So i understand Tarmygs view on the matter; is it something to worry THAT much about?
Faced with this shit myself, I admit, it pisses me off immensely,
and really makes me wanna go on crusade against the stupid fucks.
This reaction isn't very smart in itself though.
My conclusion is that stupid begets stupid reactions, or at least an overkill of a reaction.

But that's easy to say while over here, we are just starting to see the Antifa BS and so on, you in the US has had it for a while now
And if I allready start to think about crusading over what little we've felt here,
I can totally understand you're being ready to march in the US.

Will say this though, the problem seldom is as big as it seems.
As mentioned, this will be noticed by people of reason and there will eventually rise a movement against it, hopefully an enlightened one.


Last words on the matter;
Over here we always like to take credit for discovering the Americas before Columbus, as Leif Eriksson expedition went there and according to the sagas established a colony, and also fought with the natives,which they described as "Skraelinger", a clearly derogatory name, which by today's language would mean "scrawny/weak people".

I wonder what would happen if Antifa were to propose that what Leif Eriksson did was the racist and therefore wanted to remove any statues of him.
(Not that I know of any)
That would not go down well.

This entire thing is so strange, do these people expect history to be a nice little fairytale?

They know Columbus wasn't the 1st but try telling that to the Italians.

[hammerheart]

They know Columbus wasn't the 1st but try telling that to the Italians.

After the hurricans passed now the statue removal thing is all over the news. We are having a good laugh at the US atm, who cares of Columbus lol

[Euroholic]

Never heard of this guy until that sopranos episode haha