Las Vegas Shooting

[Sh0tsf1red]

Last I heard 50 dead, 200+ shot

Rough times, sad story

Wonder why the distraction? Wonder what laws, executive actions or similar are being/signed passed today....

[RaginCajun]

Sucks man, damn sorry ass SOB! What kind of person does something like this. Innocent lives having a good time and some nut job decides to ruin it and people’s lives.

Hate tragedies like this

[Obs]

Sucks man, damn sorry ass SOB! What kind of person does something like this. Innocent lives having a good time and some nut job decides to ruin it and people’s lives.

Hate tragedies like this

I believe this guy was just literally psychotic and that is the only reason. They will no doubt politically motivate this just like all things.

I wish they wouldn't try to come up with a "reason" the guy did this. Why give him the attention or give his "cause" attention. He was a piece of shit and now he is a dead pos.
Glad I got rid of facebook. Fucking democrats are already trying to ride their agendas on the backs of 50 dead and 400 injured. That disgusting cunt hillary already released statements on it. All those bullets flying and no big league politicians were killed... Damn shame.

[DHew]

ISIS now claiming responsibility as he recently converted to Islam. I can't wait to see the anti gun people use this as an excuse to try to ban guns. The interesting thing is, the automatic weapon he used is already banned and heavily regulated. It's about to get really nasty and it's just saddening.

[austinite]

Crazy. There is no evidence of any abnormalities with the guy, ever. Could be your neighbor. Seriously messed up. Guy spent a bunch of money at the casino, probably put all his eggs in one basket and figured if he lost it all, he'll go out with a bang. What a mess. Very sad.

[MuscleScience]

All the anti-American groups are lining up to claim this one. All I know is that they better be careful what they wish for. Antifa has plans to touch off the next civil war on November 4th. I think they are it is wishful thinking on their part. There might be a few protest on that day. Most of those people can't even handle accepting what gender they are, let alone be able to pull off destabilizing our country.

[Obs]

All the anti-American groups are lining up to claim this one. All I know is that they better be careful what they wish for. Antifa has plans to touch off the next civil war on November 4th. I think they are it is wishful thinking on their part. There might be a few protest on that day. Most of those people can't even handle accepting what gender they are, let alone be able to pull off destabilizing our country.

Thats a joke. I am more worried about neptune aliens invading. The retards don't know how to fight. They can chaoticallly riot until police stop them and thats all. Most of them don't have the stomach for a job. Combat? No. I would like to see their national movement try to overtake my town of 1000.

This is another reason I am sick and tired of social media in general. The more irrational and often times the more insignificant a group is... The more attention they get. If no one is listening, no one is talking, and no one gives a fuck, the "group" doesn't gain momentum.

The social media attention these idiots get makes them outgrow their britches overnight. These groups strive for the media attention and people play into each side of it.
Every thing that fucking happens is going to be turned into a political shitstorm because media creates problems that don't exist.

Its already starting with people still dying. "We have to stand up to the NRA!" -Hillary Clinton

Well, look you disgusting cunt, those firearms were illegal already! Obviously your methods don't work! Apparently people on killing sprees dgaf what is legal.

Luckily social media and the news will get a million retards in suburban homeowners associations to back the liberal retards up so more ignorant shit can be perpetuated by the media. Meanwhile the Right side will be defending as usual and do nothing but fling shit back at the left for two months and then we will return to more coverage of rich athletes kneeling during the anthem.
Its redundant and never ending.

Both of the two sides (yes, count them) are gonna run their fuckin mouths like they are rooting for a football team and both sides actually believe their party is gonna do something to "help" them.

Fucking sheep.

"My first day in office I will repeal obamacare."
"I will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it."

Let me tell you what all big league politicians will do:
They will toe the line of political mediocrity or their careers in politics will be ended. Trump, Hillary, Cruz, Bernie etc. You will get the same from all of them.
Everyone is looking for some big "CHANGE".
You ain't getting shit Jack because you already have it better than any group of human beings in the history of human beings. I fucking hate politics. Fuck em all.

Antifa is gonna do this or blm is gonna do that blah blah...
Fucking do something please.

[marcus300]

Very very sad

[kelkel]

AAntifa has plans to touch off the next civil war on November 4th.

National Concealed Carry day!

[Max562]

They're already blaming it on access to guns...fucking liberals...guns don't kill people ..people kill people....old fuck wanted to make one last statement before he left this world...fucking loser in the first degree


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[Capebuffalo]

National Concealed Carry day!

You mean open carry day. Lol

[austinite]

You mean open carry day. Lol

We celebrate that every day in Texas.

[KINGKONG]

One sick human causing so much pain and sadness in so many..if he didn't have automatic weapons he woulda used a car or a bomb..I hope I make it by Vegas soon to piss on his grave..I really hate this man

[MuscleScience]

One sick human causing so much pain and sadness in so many..if he didn't have automatic weapons he woulda used a car or a bomb..I hope I make it by Vegas soon to piss on his grave..I really hate this man

Defiantly a human piece of garbage. From the sounds of the video it would appear he was using a bump stock or Gat rotory trigger device. The shots were to inconsistent to be a true automatic lower receiver.

[Obs]

Defiantly a human piece of garbage. From the sounds of the video it would appear he was using a bump stock or Gat rotory trigger device. The shots were to inconsistent to be a true automatic lower receiver.

They are now saying he retro fitted them. Been outta the game a while but used to I had about twnty catalogs that sold full auto conversion kits.

[Sh0tsf1red]

Defiantly a human piece of garbage. From the sounds of the video it would appear he was using a bump stock or Gat rotory trigger device. The shots were to inconsistent to be a true automatic lower receiver.

Sounded like an m60 or m249

Multiple shooters for sure...

[MuscleScience]

They are now saying he retro fitted them. Been outta the game a while but used to I had about twnty catalogs that sold full auto conversion kits.

Sounded like an m60 or m249

Multiple shooters for sure...

The ROF was to inconsistent, sometimes it would speed up and sometimes slow
Down. Just makes me think of it not being a true auto equit gun. Either way it doesn't matter, lots of people are injured or dead for no reason.

[cousinmuscles]

These attacks on random unsuspecting people are disgusting. I just wish I didn't hear about this, not that I don't feel sorry for those attacked, but because of the psychological effects of getting these kind of news repeatedly.

[Obs]

The ROF was to inconsistent, sometimes it would speed up and sometimes slow
Down. Just makes me think of it not being a true auto equit gun. Either way it doesn't matter, lots of people are injured or dead for no reason.

I suspect that was acoustic change based on the direction the gun was pointing and what window he was at. You sure could be right on the bump stock theory. We will know soon.

[KINGKONG]

Defiantly a human piece of garbage. From the sounds of the video it would appear he was using a bump stock or Gat rotory trigger device. The shots were to inconsistent to be a true automatic lower receiver.

Bump stock was what I was thinking..I converted sks's when I was young because they were cheap and easy to convert and we burned through barrels like it was nobody's business..ppl don't really appreciate the difference in a good M-16 or a AR or a Chinese AK vs a Russian one..those guns were made for mass killings..either way this guy musta planned this for awhile a lot of guns and ammo taken outta that room kinda curious what kind..at least kill some people that need to be killed not a bunch of good people having fun at a country concert..go to a child molester prison (they have them) and unload on the yard..the guards will probably wait a few 100 Mississippi's before half assed trying to stop..there is some evil people out there and I would have no problem putting a bullet through there skulls but c mon'

[MuscleScience]

Gat Crank

[MuscleScience]

Binary Trigger= fire on the trigger pull and trigger release.

[MuscleScience]

Bump Stock or Slide Stock. When fired the recoil of the rifle "slides," backwards on the shoulder brace or "Stock." A spring launches the rifle back forward causing the shooters trigger finger to engaged and disengage the triggers faster than they could with the usually semi auto fire rate. Semi auto = 1 shot for one trigger pull for those that may not know the terminology. Full auto is multiple rounds per trigger pull limited to ammunition capacity or if the shooter disengages the trigger.

[MuscleScience]

Keep in mind these are all semi auto rifles that have a mechanism that allows the rifle to "mimic," the full automatic features of military grade rifles. However, at least as the law is defined at this point. These rifles would still not be classified as full auto rifles without these modifications.

Only if the internal trigger mechanism within the lower receiver of the rifle was altered in such a way as to have a mechanism called a "auto shear," in the trigger assembly would the rifle be considered fully auto.


Here is a good video that illustrates the difference between semi auto and full auto. Even though the model says AR15 which is a civilian rifle. The mechanism they are describing in the full auto version of the video is for military M16. M16 internal m16 parts are not innerchangable with AR 15 parts. So don't be confused by that. Although they look cosmetically the same on the exterior. they share very few internal parts and configurations. A good machinest could probably modify some key parts in the civilian configuration but they are few and far between in skill and want.

[Obs]

Bump Stock or Slide Stock. When fired the recoil of the rifle "slides," backwards on the shoulder brace or "Stock." A spring launches the rifle back forward causing the shooters trigger finger to engaged and disengage the triggers faster than they could with the usually semi auto fire rate. Semi auto = 1 shot for one trigger pull for those that may not know the terminology. Full auto is multiple rounds per trigger pull limited to ammunition capacity or if the shooter disengages the trigger.

Old Vietnam vet. Taught me how with bungee cords. He said the gooks would have belt fed rifle hanging and would leave it firing while they peeled out the back when the Americans were raining down.

[MuscleScience]

Old Vietnam vet. Taught me how with bungee cords. He said the gooks would have belt fed rifle hanging and would leave it firing while they peeled out the back when the Americans were raining down.

That's smart, I was thinking about dropping a binary trigger into my AR prior to this all. But I need to stock up on 30 round mags quickly. This is the first mass shooting which used high capacity mags of 50 or more. From the vids he must have had a 100 round drum mags.

[MuscleScience]

It just kills me, I could never look at a fellow American citizen and separate them from me enough to justify killing them. I honestly do not believe we hate each other as much as politicians and the media would have us believe. I guess having a free press that is accountable to no one is both a blessing and a curse.

[PT1982]

I've been in mourning all day over this. I don't want to talk about it right now. Heck, I can't even stomach to see any videos of it. I know some of you think I'm a conspiracy nut, but this feels set up. He had 23 guns, or 19, on the premise. Not small handguns that could be tucked away, but large caliber NATO rounds and more. This feels like the pushing of an agenda to me. When this news broke, conservatives were being level headed and asking for prayers of those injured and the families that lost loved ones. They said this was a time for us all to unite and come together in this. And this is what they've literally been saying all day.
Then turn to CNN or any other MSM and we get "we have to stop the NRA. Maybe this will finally wake people up to see that we don't need guns. Etc, etc, etc" all day long. There is an agenda. If the elites aren't behind it, they're glad it happened so they can now have more strength to their "case". It's a shame. If more people were encouraged to carry, there would be less shootings. That's common sense. Criminals are going to get guns regardless. Evil exists and they will carry out their evil plans with or without us. We have to stand firm and fight back. The second amendment wasn't put in place to protect ourselves from intruders, thieves, etc. Those are just by products. It had 1 single objective, and that was to protect ourselves from a tyrannical gov't. The founders knew what they were doing, as they broke from tyranny. If we're forced to give up our right to bear arms, were doomed. They can do and take from us anything they want. They will finally be where they want to be, above us. Big brother. We the people are supposed to run this country. We put these people in place to uphold and provide the law in a civilized fashion. But you know what? We can kick everyone out and start anew if we just would. We still have that power in us. But we just sit back, complain, and do nothing. All the while they are working around the clock and never giving up on taking our freedoms. A time is coming that we're going to wake up one day in a communist/ socialist county and by then it'll be to late for us to do anything. If we do in that day, we'll be executed or imprisoned (possibly in all of the fema camps all over the country sitting empty...... for now). Y'all can call me a conspiracy theorist, but the message is there and the actions are pointing in one direction. I have to admit, I feel like a dork talking like this, but I do believe this is as good as its going to get for a while. Stock up on ammo while you can. Guns too if you can afford them. There may be a time come that wet have to use our second amendment right for its intended purpose. I pray we don't, but it ain't looking good guys. They'll have to take my guns off of my lifeless body. Sorry to rant.

[MuscleScience]

I've been in mourning all day over this. I don't want to talk about it right now. Heck, I can't even stomach to see any videos of it. I know some of you think I'm a conspiracy nut, but this feels set up. He had 23 guns, or 19, on the premise. Not small handguns that could be tucked away, but large caliber NATO rounds and more. This feels like the pushing of an agenda to me. When this news broke, conservatives were being level headed and asking for prayers of those injured and the families that lost loved ones. They said this was a time for us all to unite and come together in this. And this is what they've literally been saying all day.
Then turn to CNN or any other MSM and we get "we have to stop the NRA. Maybe this will finally wake people up to see that we don't need guns. Etc, etc, etc" all day long. There is an agenda. If the elites aren't behind it, they're glad it happened so they can now have more strength to their "case". It's a shame. If more people were encouraged to carry, there would be less shootings. That's common sense. Criminals are going to get guns regardless. Evil exists and they will carry out their evil plans with or without us. We have to stand firm and fight back. The second amendment wasn't put in place to protect ourselves from intruders, thieves, etc. Those are just by products. It had 1 single objective, and that was to protect ourselves from a tyrannical gov't. The founders knew what they were doing, as they broke from tyranny. If we're forced to give up our right to bear arms, were doomed. They can do and take from us anything they want. They will finally be where they want to be, above us. Big brother. We the people are supposed to run this country. We put these people in place to uphold and provide the law in a civilized fashion. But you know what? We can kick everyone out and start anew if we just would. We still have that power in us. But we just sit back, complain, and do nothing. All the while they are working around the clock and never giving up on taking our freedoms. A time is coming that we're going to wake up one day in a communist/ socialist county and by then it'll be to late for us to do anything. If we do in that day, we'll be executed or imprisoned (possibly in all of the fema camps all over the country sitting empty...... for now). Y'all can call me a conspiracy theorist, but the message is there and the actions are pointing in one direction. I have to admit, I feel like a dork talking like this, but I do believe this is as good as its going to get for a while. Stock up on ammo while you can. Guns too if you can afford them. There may be a time come that wet have to use our second amendment right for its intended purpose. I pray we don't, but it ain't looking good guys. They'll have to take my guns off of my lifeless body. Sorry to rant.

I'm skeptical that this was just some psycho. The pics of him floating around with a Pussy hat on. His girlfriend husband being a left wing nut. He may have been an Antifa sympathizer or Antifa itself. The guys own brother even said he wasn't a gun nut or anything like that. The amount of planning and execution he had to have and near flawless reloads you could hear on video meant that he did some training for this at some point. I don't like to speculate, but based on what we know so far, it's hard to swallow that this was just a random act of violence. And the second time in a row that republicans/conservatives or whatever you want to call them have been the target.

[Sh0tsf1red]

The ROF was to inconsistent, sometimes it would speed up and sometimes slow
Down. Just makes me think of it not being a true auto equit gun. Either way it doesn't matter, lots of people are injured or dead for no reason.

Have you ever heard an m60 or m249 fired in an urban environment?

This was no bump stock, binary trigger or otherwise. This was not an AR style rifle. Some witness reports some people took 3 rounds to the chest, think about that for a second...

Full auto AR, shooting at distance, outside, from elevation. That's pretty remarkable grouping for a 64 year old who wasn't a "gun guy"...

And it DOES matter, this event is going to spur many laws, regulations and restrictions.

"All the world is a stage"

[PT1982]

I'm skeptical that this was just some psycho. The pics of him floating around with a Pussy hat on. His girlfriend husband being a left wing nut. He may have been an Antifa sympathizer or Antifa itself. The guys own brother even said he wasn't a gun nut or anything like that. The amount of planning and execution he had to have and near flawless reloads you could hear on video meant that he did some training for this at some point. I don't like to speculate, but based on what we know so far, it's hard to swallow that this was just a random act of violence. And the second time in a row that republicans/conservatives or whatever you want to call them have been the target.

You're feeling what in feeling then. Just as a suicide bomber will give his life for the cause, we're seeing antifa doing the same. This has been predicted for a while now.

[PT1982]

Have you ever heard an m60 or m249 fired in an urban environment?

This was no bump stock, binary trigger or otherwise. This was not an AR style rifle. Some witness reports some people took 3 rounds to the chest, think about that for a second...

Full auto AR, shooting at distance, outside, from elevation. That's pretty remarkable grouping for a 64 year old who wasn't a "gun guy"...

And it DOES matter, this event is going to spur many laws, regulations and restrictions.

"All the world is a stage"

I think you see it too. Have you heard what guns were used? I'll I'm hearing is "assault rifle", as if there is such a thing. They need to just call in what they think. A "scary gun".

[Sh0tsf1red]

I think you see it too. Have you heard what guns were used? I'll I'm hearing is "assault rifle", as if there is such a thing. They need to just call in what they think. A "scary gun".

Always a weird term to me, my rifles have never assaulted anyone, and I leave them alone sometimes! Imagine the trouble they could get in bring unsupervised! I just have lazy guns I guess, just want to sleep locked away in thier cases all day....


I don't think they have officially named what he had but they say 23 at the hotel and 19 at home. They also found Tannerite at his home and ammonium nitrate (OKC bombing ingredient) in his car. A gun store in north LV has confirmed they sold him firearms (un named) over the past 12 months and that he passed all background checks.

Better by some stock in whatever company makes metal detectors, they are going to be EVERYWHERE!!!!!

[Couchlock]

Im putting money on these guns used

Mini-14 with paperclip conversion.
Hkg3/CETME Or a m1919 a1 chambered in 308.

It just had that belt fed sound to me.

Any takers? I really think the ar15/m16 was not used in his attack, maybe he had one in,his room, but I dont think It was used.

[Sh0tsf1red]

Im putting money on these guns used

Mini-14 with paperclip conversion.
Hkg3/CETME Or a m1919 a1 chambered in 308.

It just had that belt fed sound to me.

Any takers? I really think the ar15/m16 was not used in his attack, maybe he had one in,his room, but I dont think It was used.

Belt fed for sure

[MuscleScience]

Couple of photos of the weapons used.

Only on Boston 25: Exclusive photos of Las Vegas shooter?s guns | Boston 25 News

[Couchlock]

Couple of photos of the weapons used.

Only on Boston 25: Exclusive photos of Las Vegas shooter?s guns | Boston 25 News

That's bull. I see 2 ar's, one with a sure fire 60 round mag and other with a 30 round mag. The mag shapes surely do not look like ar-10 .308's.....

Were the real guns used, not pics of guns they wanted banned for cover 15 years..

[Obs]

https://youtu.be/4N3N1MlvVc4

[Beetlegeuse]

What I've only heard mention of once, and that was shortly after the shooting, is that the reason this guy went out of his way to make his motive undiscoverable is that absent any other evidence the news would default to blaming the guns. And it bears mention that that very thing was mentioned by the New Zealand mass murderer's manifesto.

...[T]o create conflict between the two ideologies within the United States on the ownership of firearms in order to further the social, cultural,political and racial divide within the United states.This conflict over the 2nd amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will ultimately result in a civil war that will eventually balkanize the US along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.This balkanization of the US will not only result in the racial separation of the people within the United States ensuring the future of the White race on the North American continent, but also ensuring the death of the “melting pot” pipe dream.

Why is it such a stretch to think that someone who was equally lunatic might not have had the same motivation?


"Tyler Durden" is a for shit writer because he fails to state his "questions" in the form of a question (guess he's never watched "Jeopardy") but his points are spot-on.


I've distilled this down to just the bullet points but follow the link in the headline for the rest.

5 Unanswered Questions That Remain 2 Years After The Vegas Shooting

“It wasn’t about MGM, Mandalay Bay or a specific casino or venue,” said Aaron Rouse, the special agent in charge of the FBI’s Las Vegas office when the FBI closed the case in January.

“It was all about doing the maximum amount of damage and him obtaining some form of infamy.”

Paddock, according to the FBI’s official story, acted alone and murdered dozens to simply go down in history.

Before the FBI closed their investigation, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo declared the case closed as well and vowed never to speak Paddock’s name in public again. Like the FBI, the LVMPD closed their investigation without ever finding a motive and leaving countless questions unanswered.

The Vegas massacre, which is now referred to as 1 October, has only gotten stranger as things progress. Following the tragedy, law enforcement engaged in a series of narrative changes, deliberate blocking of information, and appeared to be working directly with the casino to make sure Americans never know the entire truth.

For months after the shooting, the LVMPD refused to release any information. Only after they fought the release all the way to the state supreme court, and were handed down a ruling forcing them to release information, did they ever budge.

However, after the court forced them to release information on the October 1 massacre, the Las Vegas police department—in an insultingly futile attempt at transparency—randomly began dumping information related to the shooting. In what appeared to be a deliberate attempt to muddy the waters, much of the video released by the department had no time stamps and was provided without context.

Luckily, outlets like the Las Vegas Review-Journal were persistent in scrubbing the details of this case. However, because the mainstream media no longer reports on this information, it was essentially buried upon its release. The Free Thought Project has compiled a list of five major questions — all of which were swept under the rug by the MSM — that still remain in regards to what actually took place on 1 October....

1. Report suggests Paddock’s girlfriend worked for the FBI

2. Officers seen on body camera footage cowering in fear as Paddock murdered people one floor above them

3. Paddock Reportedly Warned His Brain was ‘Hacked’ and He Was Under Gov’t Control

4. Information suggesting Paddock was an arms dealer completely ignored by MSM

5. Vegas police seen on video being instructed to turn off their body cameras


...The more information that comes out on the horrific events of that fateful night, the more questions the public has. The uncooperative behavior by the Las Vegas Metropolitan police department was a kick in the teeth to the victims and their families. Sadly, now that all the authorities investigating the tragedy have ended their investigations, we may never know all the details that led to shooting.

[Frank777]

I guess people still have many questions about that awful case. The point is we'll never find it out. And I'm sure, it took time for many of us to return to real casinos to play favorite games. Personally, I haven't been there since that shooting. Not exactly because of the shooting, there are many other reasons (including the pandemic now). I play at online casinos now and then. Maybe I'll go to Las Vegas this summer.