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    The road to my first NPC competition

    I am 4 1/2 weeks out from my first NPC competition. I am looking for any advice, critique, or comments to assist me in being my best. I will be posting pics as we go.
    I just finished a dry run prep and had water retention issues, but I figured out the cause (frag 176-191 and Melanotan).
    Here is my cycle up to week 3 from the comp. test prop 400 mg, mast 600 mg
    Tren a 450 mg, slin, 100 T3.
    Week 3-week 2 cut test, up mast to 700, up tren to 700 mg, add Winnie oral 100 continue T3. Cut out all post and pre workout:
    Week 1- continue and cut out everything 3 days out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I am 4 1/2 weeks out from my first NPC competition. I am looking for any advice, critique, or comments to assist me in being my best. I will be posting pics as we go.
    I just finished a dry run prep and had water retention issues, but I figured out the cause (frag 176-191 and Melanotan).
    Here is my cycle up to week 3 from the comp. test prop 400 mg, mast 600 mg
    Tren a 450 mg, slin, 100 T3.
    Week 3-week 2 cut test, up mast to 700, up tren to 700 mg, add Winnie oral 100 continue T3. Cut out all post and pre workout:
    Week 1- continue and cut out everything 3 days out?

    Any thoughts?
    On the AAS, I normally run less gear @ 300mg/wk Tren 400mg/wk Mast. I just can't handle the Tren sides. Just wimp I guess.

    I concentrate more on my carbs. I lower my carbs starting 5 days out 2 days before the show I eat no carbs. Then 1 day before the show I carb load. When I wake up on the day of the show, I am huge. The timing of the carb loading is tricky. It takes my friend 2 days for his carb load to take place. You need to test to see how your body reacts to the carb loading.

    The other is water loading. 7 & 6 days out I drink 2 gallons of water and take a diuretic 3 x day. 5 & 4 & 3 days out I drink 3 gallons of water and take the diuretic 3 x day. 2 days out I drink as much water as I can until noon and then at noon to when I go to bed I only drink 20 oz water. I'm still taking diuretic 3 x day. 1 day before the show, the entire day I drink 20 oz water while taking the diuretic. On the day of the show I don't take any diuretic and sip water as needed. 30 minutes before I get on the stage I eat a sugary doughnut and drink some Gatorade with extra salt added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    On the AAS, I normally run less gear @ 300mg/wk Tren 400mg/wk Mast. I just can't handle the Tren sides. Just wimp I guess.

    I concentrate more on my carbs. I lower my carbs starting 5 days out 2 days before the show I eat no carbs. Then 1 day before the show I carb load. When I wake up on the day of the show, I am huge. The timing of the carb loading is tricky. It takes my friend 2 days for his carb load to take place. You need to test to see how your body reacts to the carb loading.

    The other is water loading. 7 & 6 days out I drink 2 gallons of water and take a diuretic 3 x day. 5 & 4 & 3 days out I drink 3 gallons of water and take the diuretic 3 x day. 2 days out I drink as much water as I can until noon and then at noon to when I go to bed I only drink 20 oz water. I'm still taking diuretic 3 x day. 1 day before the show, the entire day I drink 20 oz water while taking the diuretic. On the day of the show I don't take any diuretic and sip water as needed. 30 minutes before I get on the stage I eat a sugary doughnut and drink some Gatorade with extra salt added.

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    Hey thanks! I think that I have the carbs dialed in. I have had water retention problems but do to my stupidity. Last year I took GH 2 weeks out and then started gaining water weight 4 days out (8 lbs worth). My last time it was frag and Melanotan that retained the water (first time taking).
    I follow the water protocol without the diuretic. I think that I will try the diuretic like you mention. What diuretic do you use?


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    Gets some charger!!!

    I’m going to do one soon. Falling flat in the comp has me motivated to finish my journey and get show ready!
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    As mentioned above the carb up in my opinion is the biggest thing. Scotch said he does the day before. I tried that the first time and was flat. The day after the show I was full. Since then it was 2 days before for me.

    Water is easier. Overload then cut then drop with the help of a dieuretic. A half cup of coffee the morning of would help me shed some extra water.

    First show is a learning experience. Keep a log with times and amounts. The second show you will be glad you kept it in detail. And you should get pin pointed in. Keep another log. Next show even sharper.

    Try to find a second show 1-2 weeks after the first. It will make the diet easier than a month or two out.

    When you train pose in between set the muscle group you are training.
    Practice posing in addition to that 30 min - 1 hr a day.

    If you have no rhythm like me don’t worry about it to much doing your routine.
    You are judged on the mandatory poses. Nail them. Be able to hold them during the comparisons and not start shaking. Smile. Make it look easy.

    I would always back fill slin pins 2 weeks out so as not to get knots showing anywhere.

    Sorry now I’m just rambling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Gets some charger!!!

    Im going to do one soon. Falling flat in the comp has me motivated to finish my journey and get show ready!
    You did not fall flat! You made good improvements. We all know that we could have done better. Once again, if I had your knowledge, I could be so much better.
    You and your knowledge will make you killer in a show! Just let me know so I do not enter.


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    Subscribed! can watch the show and spot you instantly from the appearance of your physique, every detail is registered in my memory

    Best of luck bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Gets some charger!!!

    I’m going to do one soon. Falling flat in the comp has me motivated to finish my journey and get show ready!
    You were far from falling flat on the comp, I know people in the gym that would kill to accomplish in a year what you did in 3 months.
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    I have come to the conclusion that my posing needs a lot of work. I am going to spend more time on poSing.
    For my music routine I am using Hail to the king by avenged Sevenfold. I am keeping it basic and using the circle method where I keep rotating to the right.
    Poses are: most muscular hands down in front, single bicep, double bicep, front lat, (rotate right single bicep leaning to the right,with back to the Audience), side chest, side tricep, rotate rear lat, single bicep, double bicep, raise and lower doble bicep, shooting arrow , rotate side chest hands at hips, side tricep (hands free and one in front), rotate 1 arm behind head ab, 2 hands behind the head (switch legs), wrist bent arms extended up (Fran Zane pose), most muscular hands down, most muscular crab.

    Not sure if anyone can visualize these. I will be posting one pic for help with the pose.


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    Remember the contest is won in pre-judging so put a ton of effort into the mandatory poses first and foremost. You can almost fall down during your actual routine and it wouldn't make much difference, other than pride. Remember during your routine to only do poses that show your strengths, avoid any that show weaknesses. If a pose leans you out don't do it. Nothing says you have to do any certain pose during your routine. Do what makes you look good or just don't do it.

    Also, find some bodybuilders on youtube that you like their posing style and immitate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I have come to the conclusion that my posing needs a lot of work. I am going to spend more time on poSing.
    For my music routine I am using “Hail to the king” by avenged Sevenfold. I am keeping it basic and using the circle method where I keep rotating to the right.
    Poses are: most muscular hands down in front, single bicep, double bicep, front lat, (rotate right single bicep leaning to the right,with back to the Audience), side chest, side tricep, rotate rear lat, single bicep, double bicep, raise and lower doble bicep, shooting arrow , rotate side chest hands at hips, side tricep (hands free and one in front), rotate 1 arm behind head ab, 2 hands behind the head (switch legs), wrist bent arms extended up (Fran Zane pose), most muscular hands down, most muscular crab.

    Not sure if anyone can visualize these. I will be posting one pic for help with the pose.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Upload a video of your routine. Just wear a mask.
    So you think Im that ugly?


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    So you think I’m that ugly?


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    So you think I’m that ugly?


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    Not sure if I'm supposed to be honest or polite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel101 View Post
    Not sure if I'm supposed to be honest or polite.

    Be yourself.

    Wait, let me re think that.
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    I will try uploading a video this weekend. Its a work in progress so promise not to laugh!


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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Remember the contest is won in pre-judging so put a ton of effort into the mandatory poses first and foremost. You can almost fall down during your actual routine and it wouldn't make much difference, other than pride. Remember during your routine to only do poses that show your strengths, avoid any that show weaknesses. If a pose leans you out don't do it. Nothing says you have to do any certain pose during your routine. Do what makes you look good or just don't do it.

    Also, find some bodybuilders on youtube that you like their posing style and immitate it.
    Very good points! I was told previously about the mandatory poses but I have deviated a little. Thanks for keeping me on track!


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    Well, I have decided to start the frag. This means that i will do away with preworkout and work out in a fasted state in the morning workout. My morning workout is the larger muscle groups. My afternoon workout is at least 20 minutes of HIIT, small muscle workouts, posing, and sauna.
    Any rcommendations for rep set schemes? I am doing 10 reps, hold 10 seconds, 10 reps, 10 second hold, 10 reps, 10 second hold


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    I moved to a push pull 3 weeks out still going heavy. 2 weeks out still push pull but lighter higher reps up through Tuesday of the show week. Relaxed Wed Thur. Thursday night started applying tan. Kept applying tan all day Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    I moved to a push pull 3 weeks out still going heavy. 2 weeks out still push pull but lighter higher reps up through Tuesday of the show week. Relaxed Wed Thur. Thursday night started applying tan. Kept applying tan all day Friday.
    Thanks Cape! I have been going to tanning beds. I am looking reallly tanned right now. A couple days before the comp, I was going to go to ITan and have them spray me. It supposedly lasts for weeks and does not really wash off. According to them, they do spray people for competition, but I want to be very dark. I am sure that they have people spraying at the comp and I have my trusty jana tana as an emergency


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    Quote Originally Posted by cousinmuscles View Post
    Subscribed! can watch the show and spot you instantly from the appearance of your physique, every detail is registered in my memory

    Best of luck bro
    Help me understand. You can watch this on the internet? How?
    Damn, I feel so old because I did not know you can do this.


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    I am going to start posting poses, but one at a time so that I can focus on the comments on a single pose. I have the most confidence that I have ever had and with the experience level of people on here assisting, you will see a 51 yo at his best.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Help me understand. You can watch this on the internet? How?
    Damn, I feel so old because I did not know you can do this.


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    I meant if I watch the lineup I'll spot you instantly because I've seen your physique so many times. Only one charger lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cousinmuscles View Post
    I meant if I watch the lineup I'll spot you instantly because I've seen your physique so many times. Only one charger lol!
    Are all npc shows streamed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollowedzeus View Post
    Are all npc shows streamed?
    Negative. But results are always posted here within a few days:

    http://npcnewsonline.com/category/galleries/

    Go to the Contests Tab and click on Recent contests.
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    Sorry guys. I promise tomorrow there will be pics. The Melatonan is working. I came back from tanning and my wife started laughing. She said I looked like a black person, not a tanned person. LOL


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    On the water side, i looked at what Scotch mentioned however I do not understamd the use od the diueretic so far out.
    I understand the loading of water. You get your body to want to get rid of it by consuming so much and then you just cut it off and it still is trying to get rid of it because it doesnt realize that you cut it off yet. Using the diuretic while you are trying to get your body to think that it needs to get rid of water sounds contradictory. Someone please tell me where my thought process is flawed.
    Is there any preferred diruetic?


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    Well Obs first asked me if I was a model so I figured that I would post a pic. At least its in front of a Hemi so no girlish jokes. LOL
    I started with the relaxed pose. I have difficulty getting my shoulders at the same height. Also on the side relaxed I think that I should rotate a little more.
    The last one is the ab pose that I am thinking on going with. I have loose skin that detracts from the abs that I am hiding.
    The head games are starting. At 51 I wonder why I put myself through this. Then I look in the mirror and see what I need to focus on. Dr Jeckyl and Mr Hyde.
    NOTE: dont pay too much attention to the legs. I killed them at the gym and posing they were shaking.
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    You look awesome man! I’m so motivated by this. Keep pushing brother!
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Well Obs first asked me if I was a model so I figured that I would post a pic. At least it’s in front of a Hemi so no girlish jokes. LOL
    I started with the relaxed pose. I have difficulty getting my shoulders at the same height. Also on the side relaxed I think that I should rotate a little more.
    The last one is the ab pose that I am thinking on going with. I have loose skin that detracts from the abs that I am hiding.
    The head games are starting. At 51 I wonder why I put myself through this. Then I look in the mirror and see what I need to focus on. Dr Jeckyl and Mr Hyde.
    NOTE: don’t pay too much attention to the legs. I killed them at the gym and posing they were shaking.
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    That first pic is a little erotic.
    Gonna start calling you magic mike xxl.



    Good ole charger working it out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    That first pic is a little erotic.
    Gonna start calling you magic mike xxl.


    Good ole charger working it out...

    Not gana lie, I’m fully erect right meow. Well as erect as one can be without cialis...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    That first pic is a little erotic.
    Gonna start calling you magic mike xxl.



    Good ole charger working it out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    You look awesome man! Im so motivated by this. Keep pushing brother!
    Thanks man. The best is yet to come. I still have alot of work to do with posing. I will probably be going up against some big guys so I need to be cut to shreds without losing size.


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    You look great to me. I’ve competed once last year. Hoping to compete again this Nov. keep up the good work. Just remember your competition is working just as hard as you.
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