ok...first cycle

hey im new here but i feel like i no alot of u cuz ive been reading in these forums for about a year, but yeah im startin my first cycle, and i was just wondering how this sounded to u guys:
CYCLE
weeks 1-10 Test E 500 mg ew
weeks 1-10 Dianabol 20 mg ed
weeks 1-4 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
PCT
days 1-30 L-dex .25 mg ed
days 1-30 Clomid 100 mg ed
days 1-30 Nolvadex 20 mg ed
days 1-30 Milk Thistle 1000 mg ed

is there anything else i should have in my cycle or pct(like l-glutamine) to prevent sides and what not? what sides do u think i would see? what kind of gains? how many of the gains do u think i would keep? and when should i start my pct?

whoa whoa whoa. Easy on the 10 weeks of dbol. That can wreck your liver. It looks good besides that..Erase the dbol and youve got yourself a great looking cycle.

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Originally Posted by stair-oids9899

hey im new here but i feel like i no alot of u cuz ive been reading in these forums for about a year, but yeah im startin my first cycle, and i was just wondering how this sounded to u guys:
CYCLE
weeks 1-10 Test E 500 mg ew
weeks 1-10 Dianabol 20 mg ed
weeks 1-4 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
PCT
days 1-30 L-dex .25 mg ed
days 1-30 Clomid 100 mg ed
days 1-30 Nolvadex 20 mg ed
days 1-30 Milk Thistle 1000 mg ed

is there anything else i should have in my cycle or pct(like l-glutamine) to prevent sides and what not? what sides do u think i would see? what kind of gains? how many of the gains do u think i would keep? and when should i start my pct?

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I'm assuming you reversed the nolvadex and d-bol...
Cycle looks decent though, although i would bump up the d-bol to 25-30mg imo.

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Originally Posted by chest6

whoa whoa whoa. Easy on the 10 weeks of dbol. That can wreck your liver. It looks good besides that..Erase the dbol and youve got yourself a great looking cycle.

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Look at the nolvadex. It looks like it was just an error.

I'd bump the dbol up to 30mg ED and run it for the first 4 weeks just like chest6 suggested.

Run the nolvadex @ 10mg ED for the first 10 weeks.

yeah sorry about that guys, i did reverse it. what i meant was
weeks 1-10 nolvadex 10mg ed
weeks 1-4 dianabol 20 mg ed

but if u guys think i should bump up the dbol to 25-30 then i'll do that. any experience on how much of my gains i will keep off this cycle? and u think that what i already have there will be good enough for preventing estrogen related side effects?

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Originally Posted by Ejuicer

Look at the nolvadex. It looks like it was just an error.

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my bad guys..my eyes just kind of skipped over that. I would bump the nolva up to 30 and you could keep the nolva at 20..but I dont think you'll need that much with the ldex afterwards.

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Originally Posted by stair-oids9899

yeah sorry about that guys, i did reverse it. what i meant was
weeks 1-4 dianabol 30mg ed
weeks 1-10 nolvadex 10 or 20 mg ed (should be fine with 10)

but if u guys think i should bump up the dbol to 25-30 then i'll do that. any experience on how much of my gains i will keep off this cycle? and u think that what i already have there will be good enough for preventing estrogen related side effects?

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haha you did it again...ill fix it for you :lol:

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Originally Posted by chest6

my bad guys..my eyes just kind of skipped over that. I would bump the nolva up to 30 and you could keep the nolva at 20..but I dont think you'll need that much with the ldex afterwards.

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how much ldex should i take afterwards then?

Like this:

CYCLE
weeks 1-4 Dianabol 30 mg ed
weeks 1-10 Test E 500 mg ew
weeks 1-10 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
weeks 1-14 L-dex .25 mg ed
weeks 1-14 Milk Thistle 1000 mg ed

PCT
days 1-30 Clomid 100 mg ed
days 1-30 Nolvadex 20 mg ed

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Originally Posted by eGGz

Like this:

CYCLE
weeks 1-4 Dianabol 30 mg ed
weeks 1-10 Test E 500 mg ew
weeks 1-10 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
weeks 1-14 L-dex .25 mg ed
weeks 1-14 Milk Thistle 1000 mg ed

PCT
days 1-30 Clomid 100 mg ed
days 1-30 Nolvadex 20 mg ed

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Perfect. That will eliminate any gyno symptoms you are worried about with the lower nolva dosage. Well done.

Heres your cycle man right here.

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Originally Posted by chest6

haha you did it again...ill fix it for you :lol:

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lol thanks bro

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Originally Posted by chest6

Perfect. That will eliminate any gyno symptoms you are worried about with the lower nolva dosage. Well done.

Heres your cycle man right here.

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saweet, just one more question. when should i start the pct? the day after stopping all the gear?

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Originally Posted by eGGz

Like this:

CYCLE
weeks 1-4 Dianabol 30 mg ed
weeks 1-10 Test E 500 mg ew
weeks 1-10 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
weeks 1-14 L-dex .25 mg ed
weeks 1-14 Milk Thistle 1000 mg ed

PCT
days 1-30 Clomid 100 mg ed
days 1-30 Nolvadex 20 mg ed

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thanks man

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Originally Posted by stair-oids9899

saweet, just one more question. when should i start the pct? the day after stopping all the gear?

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Start PCT 14 days after your last test injection.

k, thanks a lot guys. ill keep u posted on how it works out for me

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Originally Posted by stair-oids9899

saweet, just one more question. when should i start the pct? the day after stopping all the gear?

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Anadrol/Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca: 21 days after last injection
Dianabol: 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration

This should make things easier


Reference Pheedno's "PCT start times" sticky