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We all know that "deca dick" can occur, especially with a cycle like Deca/winny...which I recently saw on this forum. However, does the same apply with Eq/Primobolan and Proviron for 13 weeks? I know the golden rule is test with any stack but if one is looking to stay lean and hard (aside from diet and cardio) it seems test can be left out. Can Eq and primo cause the limp or will proviron help with that?
so why can't you stay lean and hard WITH test???Quote:
Originally Posted by AIZ
and yes, its still quite possible w/ EQ and primo......I wouldnt risk it
Caught a thread that covered this already...just saw it...says EQ is unlikely to give you the limp: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/66012-eq%3D-limp-dick.html
Does you agree?
Well, unless you're Ross, I think that most members here will say that, yes, limp dick can occur with the stack you mentioned. Test is KING.
You can, I know but will proviron help with this at all...being an androgen?Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfyEVH
you have proviron in your cycle
its a low androgen in some ways, it is used to help erectile dysfunction
It can occur whenever not using test. EQ and primo are not nearly as suppressive as deca, and proviron provides DHT androgens so get you hard. I would drop primo and substitute test prop just to be safe.
there is more to testosterone than just maintaining an erectionQuote:
Originally Posted by AIZ
Shit...not ED or EOD shots, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by powerliftmike
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Originally Posted by wolfyEVH
I could care less if my drive goes through the roof...I'm married! I just don't want to be handicap, bro.
dont wanna risk it...you're sounding like ross
Ross? I guess I'm not in the loop on this one...what's that?Quote:
Originally Posted by chest6
This loser that comes to this board stating that you dont need test in any cycle, etc. Total crap that flows out of his mouth and fingers.Quote:
Originally Posted by AIZ
Let's say, according to powerliftmike, and I drop the primo and use Eq and test prop...can the shots be every 3rd day (2x a week) or does it have to be admin more often? Also, instead of using nolva with prop...will proviron do the job?
Ahh, ok. No, I realize the importance of test...I just don't feel like running it at 500/wk...not my thing. I like to stay nice and lean...if I can do that with Eq and Prop than great.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose
Test ! Man ! Test!
Test E or Cyp never made me increase my bf% actually it decreased. But that just my bodyQuote:
Originally Posted by AIZ
I guess it all depends on dose and diet. Like I said, 500mg of test for me is not gonna happen. I have Eq and I wouldn't mind stacking it with some test if I could keep the test to a min dosage...what would that be? I'm thinking 350 test and 300 Eq but I heard that 300 Eq is not enough
NONSENSE!
Mild anabolics like Primo, EQ, and turinabol are NOT going to negatively affect your libido!
JUST IN CASE--Get some PROVIRON.
[R]
don't listen to ross.Quote:
Originally Posted by AIZ
you can do fine off of a low dose of test with little to no side effects -- 250-400mg of test/wk is fine.
that being said, the gains, and the subsequent bloat from test (even at 500 mg) is predominantly diet dependent. you can control a lot of it by keeping your diet in check, and by using anti-e's where appropriate.
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Originally Posted by cb25
Why would you say this?
Stop being dangerous.
[R]
are you saying that the people on HRT/TRT (usually prescribed in doses of 100-200mg/week of TEST ENANTHATE) are dangerous??Quote:
Originally Posted by Anabolic Ross
you may wish to ask them and their doctors how dangerous these low doses are?
Why would you say "Don't listen to Ross"..?
That was my question.
AND YES, it is dangerous to reccomend ANY dosage of TEST rather than primo or Eq!
Other than that--you have SOUND advice.
Stick around brother.
This post made me LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Anabolic Ross
like i said in my other post to you man, i don't mean to be a dick...but i am a bit frustrated with your methods to spreading your word -- that's why i said don't listen to ross. it could have been better worded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anabolic Ross
and i stand by my recommendations of testosterone in appropriate and adequate doses.
seriously, Dr. Bhasin has done numerous studies on the safety and efficacy of testosterone enanthate -- i know of 2 off-hand that have been published in the New England Journal of Medicine (amongst other actual, peer-reviewed, scientific journals). i believe scientific evidence over anecdotal evidence most days of the week.
...*sigh*...Quote:
Originally Posted by Anabolic Ross
Lets start giving out EQ replacement therapy
:lol: good oneQuote:
Originally Posted by chest6[B
i am currently in PCT from a 12 week 400mg/wk EQ only cycle....
NO SEXUAL SIDES AT ALL...NO ACNE.......NO DECREASED LIBIDO....INCREASED ENERGY...INCREASED SEX DRIVE
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