anyone gained muscle while on test p around 500mg per wk or anavar at 75+mg a day WHILE on 150-200g of carbs?
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anyone gained muscle while on test p around 500mg per wk or anavar at 75+mg a day WHILE on 150-200g of carbs?
lot of variables in that question. I saw great gains off both.
Let me just tell you that you are not going to gain any muscle at all on the prop. with that amount of carbs at best you're going to burn a lot of bf and look leaner but not put on actual muscle.
I am planing a var and prop cycle, I do want so mass, just looking for lean gains of about 7-lbs. how do you guys thing the two will work together. want to lose bf and get very strong. not many people have given me answer on how prop and var will work together.
I ran Prop @ 50 mg/day, Var @ 60 mg/day and Clen together as a cutter last year but I gained about 10 lbs of lean muscle mass in 6 weeks.
I gain on prop ever cycle...........It's all about what you eat.
alex what were your carbs at?
agree, diet is huge, but prop and var helpsQuote:
Originally Posted by Lion
My average carb intake was 3000 per day. It was kind of high considering that I was cutting. I actually followed the diet posted by Mike_XXL in the diet forum with minor changes.
http://forums.anabolicreview.com/showthread.php?t=39010
yes, but diet is key with what ever you use. On a side note, I like tbol much better than anavar, but they both have their place.
Logan, How much did you gain from tbol? what was your dose and for how long?
3 weeks @ 50mg ed (25mg 2x/day)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex2
3 weeks @ 70mg ed (35mg 2x/day)
I started test prop @ 50mg ed at week 4 so that I could experience tbol on its own, although I thought that this was a small amount of test. I started cycle at 183lbs, tonight at the gym I was 193lbs but my pants are noticeably looser now. I am comsuming between 300-350 grams of protein/day. Tbol made my muscles really hard, similar to the effect of anavar. I believe that my strength gains were better with the var, but the thickness from tbol was more pronounced. One would think that I sell the stuff, but I will be using tbol in future cycles. At 70mg I had crazy gas, but nothing that i could not handle.
Prop only at 75mg ed. I got the results that I was looking for. I tightened and ripped up.
What did your cycle look like and how were the strength gain and did you also shed some good bf. my plan cycle is:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex2
prop- 150/eod weeks 1-10
anavar- 80mg/ed weeks 2-10
liquidex-.25mg/ed weeks 1-13
Nolvadex-10mg/ed weeks 1-13
Clomid- 100mg/ed weeks 12-15
Clenbuterol- >120mcg/ed weeks 16-25 2weeks on/off/ maybe 6 weeks and use benadryl every third week. How did you run you clen.
my goal is to gain like 10 lbs, but to also lean out and gain a crap load of strength. I want no water retention from a cycle. If this cycle works, maybe do it again to try and gain another 7-10lbs and I should be at a weight i think will suit me.
dude is that you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Duckmanfoochew
that looks just like a half naked gay fireman bro please tell me thats not you ...it really looks like a gay porn scene
I ran Prop, Var and Clen only (no Ldex or Nolva) and ran HCG and Clomid for PCT. It was short cycle (6 weeks) but I didn't want to gain much wright in short time and I noticed drastic increase in my strength from week 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by go4gold
Your cycle looks good to me but I'd suggest you start the Clen at 40 or 60 mcg/day if it is your first time on Clen to see if you can handle the sides. Clen caused bad cramps and shakes and some sleeping disorder to me. If you can handle the sides, you can increase it by 20 mcg/day until you reach the 120 mcg/day.
I used Prop in two cycles and loved it. No water retention at all; just solid mass and strength gains.
LMFAO:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by SpiderRico
3000:jawdrop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex2
Oh you must mean 3000 cals from carbs not 3000g
Ya. I'm a firefighter and that was my calendar shot. It may look a little gayish, but I tell ya the bitches eat that shit up, LARGE!Quote:
Originally Posted by kaorialfred
hold on there and put that fire out there buddy. I didn't rush to judge your photo. Dude your in great shape and a fireman. So saving lives is a great honor, consider yourself a hero in my book just for risking yor life to save another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duckmanfoochew
I saw the other comments and like I said I don't rush to judge someone.
Now that avatar will make people think yoour gay, so I could understand how that came across that way.
hi guys can any one tell me how to use the sus 250- and the isulin humulin R type knowing that this the only A S that i could get access to ..i hqve almost a countless numbers of sus 250 (about 1500 vials) and 2000 units of humulin R..and would that be a good cycle or do i need somthing else with it ??
First of all, your f***ing hijacking this tread, OFF TOPIC!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by schwrzeneger
And second, do some f&%#¤& research before asking questions!!!
ya man that avatar is sending some mixed vibes and no doubt i garentee girls eat that sh1t up but i also can bet guys eat that up too...just dont let that pick fall into the wrong hands or website cuz your phone maybe blowing up quick with some bad company
Hi, I am 18 years old, and weigh 120 pounds. My coaches encourage me to get bigger. I have researched Deca, is this good for first time User?
I think I want do do a 8 week cycle
Deca 200mg
Sust 200mg
Nolva 20mg
Thanks
Get your own thread and read posts before posting at all :no:Quote:
Originally Posted by WILLY13
:0piss: :scratch:
you shouldnt even be on this forum you should be banned shortly your only 16
ban him for hijacking and age, I don't rarely get into this type of stuff butt a 16 yr old kid on here is a definate NO.
I just wanted answers not to be attacked.
No one else has answered my new thread
Deca
because youve broken alot of rules in 1 post that might be a record ..too young, get your own thread, and i doubt you even read on post, that might not be a rule but it should be ..you will be banned most likely shortly you have to be 18 to be on this forum
I got my own thread and no one has answered.
You are right! I meant 3000 cals/day, not 3000 g. Thanks for the correction!Quote:
Originally Posted by MeanMachine2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex2
lol i notcied that too and i was like WTF isnt that like 20,000+ kcals from carbs alone?!?! LMAO
Thanks bro!! That avatar is way to funny! I like to stir things up! I have no clue how or when that pic got on my computer but it did.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaorialfred
I think we are getting off topic but needless to say Prop only worked great for me. I would honestly say that I responded the best to that simple cycle much better that any other multi compound cycle I ever did. I am gyno sensistive and didnt even have to run a blocker. Sure I got big off bigger cycles, but the muscle clarity, definition, and hardness was never there.
I am going to try a Tbol only, with prop as a back up if the Tbol doesnt measure up!
Thanks guys!!
Why dont they make Powerlifting calendars then? Ladies would eat it up too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Duckmanfoochew
Glad you approve man. I am going to start the clen put as you said, this wwas the plan from the begining, but thanks for the info anyway. Very excited about this cycle, hope to gain some very respectable results. Will keep you all updated on how it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex2
Quote:
Originally Posted by powerliftmike
mike you freakin rule, I love that picture!!!!
The calendar can be called Big and Burly!!!
When i have jumpstart with prop in the past @50-75mg ED i put on about 10-12 lbs in about 2.5-3 weeks. Just depends how much you eat