600mg of deca...for 5weeks..will i see ne thing..
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600mg of deca...for 5weeks..will i see ne thing..
Probably soft wood if no test added. IMO
take 400deca and add a shot of sus.deca int much gud on its own alwayz add sum test to get BIG.:wg:
Hi, I am 18 years old, and weigh 120 pounds. My coaches encourage me to get bigger. I have researched Deca, is this good for first time User?
I think I want do do a 8 week cycle
Deca 200mg
Sust 200mg
Nolva 20mg
willy, not to sound rude, but your a little yonge.... and if your 120 lbs i dont think youve got much lifting experience... try to gain some weight naturally before u resort to gear.
u need to do the following in order
1 learn to workout intensly enough to build quick
2 learn to eat right to gain muscle
3 then MAYBE resort to gear...
at 120 lbs its gonna be hard to convince us that you know how to lift and eat in the first place.... and if u dont, then your wasting your health and money on the gear. and if u claim u do... why are u only 120 lbs?
i started my working out at around 14... 135 lbs and 5'11" i gained about 90 lbs before i ever thought of going on gear and it might still be to early at 21
what kind of help is this? no amounts, and for how long?Quote:
Originally Posted by wiseguy83
triple lets start of with stats...age, bf%, weight, height, experience.
with this we can help aim you in the right direction.
yeah deca allwayz works well my young pal.mixes nice with sus.dont take 2many nolva it will cut yer gains just use az an wen u need it.do the deca on a mon.and the sus on a fri.gud look let me know how u get on.:wg:
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Originally Posted by WILLY13
EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT!!! train hard
when i say eat i dont mean pizza mcdonalds.
120lbs at 18? im assuming no matter what you do you cant gain any weight?
try some weightgainer and just up calories a bunch, and dont forget to get quality sleep!
Thanks. I eat healthy, but the truth is I have NEVER worked out in my life.
I just don't know where to start. My friend said I should do roids, and my doctor prescribed me to HGH, but it is just too expensive for me, so I came here.
apparently its his first cycle theres no reason to use sust.Quote:
Originally Posted by wiseguy83
the mixing of the esters sure sounds nice for a beginer, but no if your going to do it start with a basic test enanthate or cyponate like so...
also one shot of sust a week is pointless sure it may work a litte but then your advising him to take 400mg deca and 250mg sust? WTF is that?
wk1-12 test e or c 500mg wk (split it in half 250mg monday, 250mg thursday)
wk1-10 deca 400mg wk (200mg monday, 200mg thursday)
have some nolva on hand in case gyno starts to poke its ugly head
also clomid would be a good idea for PCT.
you could even cut out the deca entirely being its a 1st cycle, but deca is a safe drug IMO
theres so much information here bro just read around before you go into somthing you dont know much about.
I wldn't run deca for any less then 12 weeks...... 10 in a pinch
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Originally Posted by WILLY13
woah never worked out? dont touch steroids your friends an idiot.
1.) because your not used to working out so when you take steroids your strenght will go up dramatically and your tendons and ligaments and everything for the fact wont be ready for it and you could seriously hurt yourself.
2.) too young for ass everyone will tell you that your not finished growing, im assuming thats why you doc prescribed you GH? taking steroids may effect your chances of growing any more.
why did you doc prescribe you GH?
Because I am 5'7" and weigh 120 pounds. I asked him if there was anything he could precribe me and he said that HGH would be my best bet, but thet I would start havin to go to the gym
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Originally Posted by WILLY13
hmm ive never heard that before..im not saying its not true just doesnt sound right that a doc. would be so willing to prescribe GH to an 18yo.
damn most guys here would love if they could be like hey doc i wanna get bigger prescribe me GH pretty please!!! lol
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Originally Posted by WILLY13
Your doc's a quack.............
Thanks. and I lied about my age I am really 15
200mg of deca on the mon.250mg of sus the fri.stay at that 4 6weeks.seen a lot of roid virgins in my gym do this and get very gud gains.NOT ALL WATER.nice steady course.
your no way ready to use GH, especially at age 16, you will be doing a lot more damage then good to your body, and you will regret most of it in your later years. Eat eat eat for now...until you see some more natural gains guy
woah buddy 18+ :aabanhimlQuote:
Originally Posted by WILLY13
wheres swole when you need him?
or even mud lol
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Originally Posted by wiseguy83
What about doing wat he said for 4 weeks.
Could this hurt me in the long run?
wiseguy your an idiot.
Could it hurt me?
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Originally Posted by WILLY13
If u are 15 yrs old u are gonna fuk yourself up messing with this shit bro....
that would yield inconsistant blood levels. sust once a week?Quote:
Originally Posted by wiseguy83
thats like saying take 1 shot trenace every monday and one shot prop every tuesday you'll get huge bro....NO
would it hurt me in the long run even if I do just a 4 week cycle and then cleanse?
1.) 4 weeks isnt long enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by WILLY13
2.) yes it'll FVCK you up
3.) 15? trust me get your little ass to the gym eat right, train hard, sleep well.
you do this until your like in your 20's and are ready for juice then you'll
be very happy!
this wiseguy is a moron dont listen to him
willy your too young period. go research your azz off in the diet forum AND the workout questions forum, and get you a good diet and good workout play and STICK TO IT. then come back after several years thinking about juice.
Are there any safe supplements you know of I could take to get me strong fast, or do i need to check somewhere else?
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Originally Posted by WILLY13
since yer so young i would leave the gear till yer 18 just use creatine n mass powders 4 now.:no:
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Originally Posted by wiseguy83
finally somthing good comes out! lol
yea get some whey protein and creatine, and a good multi vitamin.
Thanks for your time. I appreciate it.
If I had not come here , i woulda taken roids and i woulda screwed up myself big time.
Thanks again
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Originally Posted by biggun24
go suck yer dads dick you fat ****:1laugh: :1hifu:
adren****e you spoke to soon... again the bronze metalist of the special olympics strikes again.
biggun24 is a gimp wat do u think?ha.the low life schnook!!!!!:0piss:Quote:
Originally Posted by WILLY13
oh now we got a comedian..again?Quote:
Originally Posted by biggun24
bro wtf are you talking about?
YeAh DO eXaCkTlY Wut WiZeGuy SEyz CuZ HE kNoWs HiS ShYtQuote:
Originally Posted by wiseguy83
where do you get off saying dont take too many nolva? you obviously dont know anything because it blocks estrogen which causes bloat..bloat does not count as gain in my book...why would you even bother spreading your terrible advice around this board?
and to the person that started this thread im glad you decided not to turn to steroids...eat and workout for years and it will all come into place when you hit 185 naturally thats 65 pounds that you will have worked hard for
no bro sorry i was talking to you ABOUT wiseguy, i didnt mean that towards you.
I weighed 119 at 18 (wrestler and a damned ecto). Here is the list of my approved safe supplements:Quote:
Originally Posted by WILLY13
Steak
Chicken
Brown Rice
Oatmeal (the real kind)
Milk
Cottage Cheese
Spinach
Beans
edamame
You get the idea.
What are you looking to do? And no, another site is not going to tell you differently and if they do, they're morons. You're 15! Not mature enough to juice, mentally nor physically.
Go buy Arnold's Encyclopedia: read it and if you can honestly follow his level I workout for just one week, you'll have my respect. Still, it will only show you how much food you must eat to grow and have energy to workout. Do Arnie's workouts 'til your 19 to a T and I guarantee you'll be a huge monster. Send us picks on the way and when you peak (at 24-28) and haev an encyclopaedic knowledge of AAS usage, then you can think about it.
DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT AAS AT YOUR AGE. PERIOD. Learn form, what works for your body and what doesn't. Be your own natural laboratory.
Ex: How long does it take me to recover, how many calories do I need and in what ratios, am I an ecto/meso/endo? You have lot's to learn, as do I.
I cant even read this thread..its pathetic. 15 years old...120 lbs.. lol i was 130 at age 17..im 5 10 and now im 227 ...I got all the way up to 242 in college naturally.
learn about nutrition/working out.. before you start to listen to your idiotic friends. 15.....(shakes head) this is why the media tears steroids apart....look at that MTV truelife and how GAY that shit was lol
oh shit sorry man..i thought you were reffering to me i was like wtf!?Quote:
Originally Posted by biggun24
lol no prob bro