Quick Advice Plz

Age: 21
History: Working out 4 years
Height: 5'11
Sport: Mixed Martial Arts
Cycle Experience: M1-t, 1-ad, 4-ad (nothing major)

I have done plenty of research on my choice of steroids, I will be taking TestE for 12 weeks (500mg), Deca for 10(400mg).... I have a fight comming up in a few months, and am purely doing this cycle to bulk up.... I have herd that running dbol as akick start works awesome, but If i did it I wud run it at a lower doesage around 20 mg ed ...my question is, what are your experiences running dbol as a kick starter?

ps= I knwo its my first cycle, but i have done my research and I have picked Test E Deca and perhaps dbol as a kick start..because I have friends who have taken the smae cycle and they highly recommend it....thanks!

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first cycle only use one compound, test e at 500mg for 10 weeks. also, u never mentioned ur weight

im 190

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Originally Posted by TheDfromGC

first cycle only use one compound, test e at 500mg for 10 weeks. also, u never mentioned ur weight

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agree:wg:

and im going to be using test and Deca for sure.... just wondering if you guys hand any opinions oin the dbol?

also, id consider anavar instead. for fighting if u gain too much, ur weight class will move up, with anavar u will experience a much smaller amount of weight gain but great strength gains, id personally rather weigh 200 and bench 350 then weigh 300 and bench 350.

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Originally Posted by bobio_69

and im going to be using test and Deca for sure.... just wondering if you guys hand any opinions oin the dbol?

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y ask for advice if ur gonna do what u planned to do anyway :scratch:

k this is how it is...I need to bulk up to around 215, because I knwo i can take more of the fighters in the heavier league...I will be using test e and deca..do you guys have any experience with runnin dbol asa kick start?

I'd say test e 500mg a week and kickstart it with dbol at 25mg ED for four weeks, that should be a good first cycle.

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Originally Posted by TheDfromGC

y ask for advice if ur gonna do what u planned to do anyway :scratch:

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because im wondering if you guys have any experience with the dbol as akick start...

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Originally Posted by PhiNally

I'd say test e 500mg a week and kickstart it with dbol at 25mg ED for four weeks, that should be a good first cycle.

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Yeah I got deca layin around, and i think im gonna take that to make sure my joints are good, and I dont get injured

Man, I'm kind a new here but I have a lot of life experience and I think you're doing yourself and injustice. I'm a fairly good sized dude and have had a very rough time with guys smaller than me due to their quickness.

I assume you're fighting in weight classes.
If you bulk up like that you're notgoing to be the same fighter....you're gonna be slower. I don't think you are giving yourself enough time, at your age It's a marathon not a miler. Maybe I'm missing something.

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Originally Posted by 2bshredded

Man, I'm kind a new here but I have a lot of life experience and I think you're doing yourself and injustice. I'm a fairly good sized dude and have had a very rough time with guys smaller than me due to their quickness.

I assume you're fighting in weight classes.
If you bulk up like that you're notgoing to be the same fighter....you're gonna be slower. I don't think you are giving yourself enough time, at your age It's a marathon not a miler. Maybe I'm missing something.

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Totally understood bro, but the thing is, I want to be in the heavy weight class....I knwo i might get a littel slower, but it all comes with the game...Im going to cut up once I bulk...

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Originally Posted by TheDfromGC

y ask for advice if ur gonna do what u planned to do anyway :scratch:

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ill take this back being u did mention u just wanted dbol advice, its quick weight and strength gain but water weight. if u feel u want the effects to kick in early then use it, i personally dont mess with anything thats mainly water weight and not keepable, anavar, primo, eq, are all better choices in my opinion, though for the quick effects dbol would be good choice

here is the answer :
dbol works will as a kick start enjoy :7up:

Im not too worried about the whole quick results fast..I knwo test takes a while to kick in...but my gf just getin back from travelling, so i thought it wud be kinda cool if i put some mass on before she came...but not a big deal....how are the strength gains ???

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Originally Posted by 2bshredded

Man, I'm kind a new here but I have a lot of life experience and I think you're doing yourself and injustice. I'm a fairly good sized dude and have had a very rough time with guys smaller than me due to their quickness.

I assume you're fighting in weight classes.
If you bulk up like that you're notgoing to be the same fighter....you're gonna be slower. I don't think you are giving yourself enough time, at your age It's a marathon not a miler. Maybe I'm missing something.

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i agree, with added size, ur not gonna be as experienced with carrying the weight compared with other guys in the weight class who have weighed that way for a long time. slower movement and less endurance from needing more oxygen to supply a heavier weight are gonna be effective and noticable immediately, winning a fight by bulking may not be the best bet

Yeah I don't mean to shut all your comments down, but im just doing what all the other guys do, the often move up in weight classes to see how they can doo..if I can do well then i will stay in the heavy, if not...then I guess ill have to cut down..

Hey Man,
I know what you're feeling, it isonly natural to do what you want to do, I would just becareful.....hang out a bit you'll get more and more info.

Good luck with it, seriously.

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Originally Posted by bobio_69

Yeah I don't mean to shut all your comments down, but im just doing what all the other guys do, the often move up in weight classes to see how they can doo..if I can do well then i will stay in the heavy, if not...then I guess ill have to cut down..

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as for strength with dbol, it will be very good but as i said, very temporary, combining with test e will help in the keepability but pct and post training and diet will be the main factor. good luck

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Originally Posted by 2bshredded

Hey Man,
I know what you're feeling, it isonly natural to do what you want to do, I would just becareful.....hang out a bit you'll get more and more info.

Good luck with it, seriously.

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Ive done quite a bit of research on the steroids I will be taking..(Test, deca , dbol)...I have also gotten a full body check up, and everything seems to be fine, I know you can get acne etc, but Im not really into the looking good for the girls, im here to compete in MMA and thats it... and from what I concluded in my research, test e deca dbol cycle is fairily mild compared to some of the other ones peopel are running today... also I will probably lower the doesage of the test to 400 and deca to 300 just to see how I react to it at first...

good luck bro

Sounds like you're determined, like I said I wish you all the best. Do me a favor and let us know how everything works out.
Kick ass and forget about taking the names, you won't need them.

M-

thanks bro...

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Originally Posted by bobio_69

Ive done quite a bit of research on the steroids I will be taking..(Test, deca , dbol)...I have also gotten a full body check up, and everything seems to be fine, I know you can get acne etc, but Im not really into the looking good for the girls, im here to compete in MMA and thats it... and from what I concluded in my research, test e deca dbol cycle is fairily mild compared to some of the other ones peopel are running today... also I will probably lower the doesage of the test to 400 and deca to 300 just to see how I react to it at first...

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first cycle is an experiment, u dont know what will happen, do one compound (test) and see how ur body reacts in general to it. u may do these 3 together and come out totally fine, but if u have researched as u have said u will find it is highly recommended to use 1 compound as first cycle. better safe then sorry, its ur decision though, pm if u need any other advice

just sent u a pm thedfromthedc

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Originally Posted by bobio_69

Age: 21
History: Working out 4 years
Height: 5'11
Sport: Mixed Martial Arts
Cycle Experience: M1-t, 1-ad, 4-ad (nothing major)

I have done plenty of research on my choice of steroids, I will be taking TestE for 12 weeks (500mg), Deca for 10(400mg).... I have a fight comming up in a few months, and am purely doing this cycle to bulk up.... I have herd that running dbol as akick start works awesome, but If i did it I wud run it at a lower doesage around 20 mg ed ...my question is, what are your experiences running dbol as a kick starter?

ps= I knwo its my first cycle, but i have done my research and I have picked Test E Deca and perhaps dbol as a kick start..because I have friends who have taken the smae cycle and they highly recommend it....thanks!

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wk 1-4 Dbol 25mg/ED
wk 1-10 Deca 400mg/wk
wk 1-12 Test E 500mg/wk

thanks mr snakes, your helps appreciated bro

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Originally Posted by mr. snakes

wk 1-4 Dbol 25mg/ED
wk 1-10 Deca 400mg/wk
wk 1-12 Test E 500mg/wk

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why do u run the test 2 weeks more:scratch: as far as i know it should be just one week betweem dem

I heard it came fromthe Anabolic God's in Greece, I just do what I'm told.
2 minutes, good question I'dlike to know as well.