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    4 week oral "NOT"

    it was noted by many & I thank you all for suggesting not to take:
    Week 1 thur Week 4
    25mg Prim
    40mg D-bol
    20mg Win

    Week 5 thur Week 7
    50mg Clomid

    due to not having enough gym-time. So should I just pitch it, save it for about a year?

    In reasearching not good to take D_bol only & I'm not afaird of needs, but where do I stick is only in the same spot? Should I rid myself of the enclosed gear?

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    um... yes dbol only isn't good. Youre afraid of needles so you should probably over come that. I dont know what enclosed gear is

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    it was noted by many & I thank you all for suggesting not to take:
    Week 1 thur Week 4
    25mg Prim
    40mg D-bol
    20mg Win

    Week 5 thur Week 7
    50mg Clomid

    No I said I'm not afaird of needles. If I was to start most of my research here I found to use Test enth @ 500mg weekly. But where do I stick? Is it only in the same spot? Should I rid myself of the enclosed gear? The D-bol, Prim, winn & clom that are all orals?

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    haha.I think he said hes not afraid of needles

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    gluts,guads,trap,delts

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    why would you get rid your enclosed gear? Just save it and work it into your next cycle

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    LOL @ Triton after reading and researching as all you guys mentioned that's the way to go:
    1st- Test Enth 500mg a week for 10-12 weeks
    finish with clomid or nolva for 2weeks

    eat clean train hard, BUT my body works differently on that. I see more improvement on all over body workout rest 4 days hit it again that the 3times a week I appear to strink? Nel- save it for my next cycle? the 2nd cycle?

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    lol @ me.

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    Kale's newbie starter pac

    this was put together by Kale. maybe you can learn alot from it



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    Newbies Starter Pac
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    All newbies to the site should list their stats,age weight height,training exp and cycle history if any!! This should be written in their 1st post when asking quiestions about steroid use !


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