Need A Little Help

**cockddiesel** · 09-01-2006, 05:08 PM

Hey im looking for a little help im new to the anabolic game but from what I have researched I have found many great reviews with a lot of successful gains. Currently I am 6-4 and 275 sitting at around 17-20% bf and im trying to slim down meaning losing body fat and gaining muscle mass I am 22 years old and I have been lifting for about 2 years and let me just face facts creatine ethel ester is awesome, but im looking to get some big gains in muscle. My supplements that I have been using are muscle milk 3x’s a day and a complete whey protein 3 times a day, tribulus 3 times a day , ZMA before bed , Nitrix 4 times, cellmass (creatine ethel ester malate), a multivitamin and like I said before with the intensity of my workouts is high but im not seeing very many gains in size and my maxes have stayed about the same bench- 475 squat -625 power clean 350 . I have been looking into their D-Bol I had a friend tell me about them, im trying to stay away from injectiables but if any one could help me out with some info reguarding a stack or something of that nature it would be greatly apprecieated

**HORSE~** · 09-01-2006, 05:15 PM

Please edit the lab name out of your post that is against the rules no lab name's to be mentioned on the open board also please read the rules before posting to make sure that you dont break anymore of them....Thanks

Welcome to AR

**pdog80** · 09-01-2006, 05:16 PM

Ok.....you've been lifting for 2 years which is not enough time in the gym to even consider AAS. Your also only 22 years old which in my opinion and the opinion of many other members is too young to start AAS. Like it really matters, but a d-bol only cycle is pretty much a waste of time and money, you'll only bloat up from all the water retention and lose all of that when you stop. I'm curious as to how you can lift so much when you've been only lifting for 2 years? I ain't hating on you, but I think it's bs.

**cfiler** · 09-01-2006, 05:40 PM

You are definately off to a good start. Although I don't think you are ready for aas yet. You generally should be under 15% body fat before a cycle.

If you are looking to cut down, you should look into ECA or Clen first. Both are oral, and don't effect your hormones like aas would.

Dbol only for cutting would definately be something I would not suggest.

Check this thread out, there is alot of great info to aas neebies.
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By the way, Welcome to AR!

**fLgAtOr** · 09-01-2006, 05:47 PM

Hey Cock,

haha...sorry. Welcome to AR. Anyways, as far as that SDI labs crap goes, here's my opinion...DON"T Its crap. Look in a fitness mag and you will see that stuff advertised in the back. SDI labs, Fizogen, and I think Legal Gear are all the same scamming company.

Well, since you want to slim down anyways, hold off on the cycle. (I won't make a comment about the age thing as I'm a little guilty, along with many on this board.) Post your diet in the diet forum and get your ass up first thing in the morning and start doing cardio. Lose the fat and then your first cycle will be a nice big bulker. Got it?

**cockddiesel** · 09-01-2006, 06:29 PM

"I'm curious as to how you can lift so much when you've been only lifting for 2 years? I ain't hating on you, but I think it's bs."
i will swear by my marks i grew up on a farm the marks are legit i have only been goin to a gym the past 2 years. so i have been throwing haybails and lifting feedbags all my life not to mention i played football everysingle year of school wrestled and threw on the track team.

**cockddiesel** · 09-01-2006, 06:34 PM

thanks for all the help

**pdog80** · 09-01-2006, 06:35 PM

Even if you can lift that much, 2 years in the gym's not enough to start juicing. Also, your only 22 and too young. Unless your gonna be a pro bber it's not worth doing gear at your age. Wait another 2 years.

**cockddiesel** · 09-01-2006, 06:47 PM

if juicing isnt the answer at "my age" does anyone have any ideas suppliment wise

**HORSE~** · 09-01-2006, 07:10 PM

Here are a few links that can help you to keep progresing without haveing to use aas....

This one is to the supliment forum just make a thread and tell them what your goals are and they can help you pick out some good products to try...heres the link
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4

Here is a link to the workout forum....Post your workout routine and cardio routines there and they can help you to make sure that you are geting the most out of your time in the gym and doing the proper workout to reach your goals...heres that link....

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3

And here is a link to the deit forum post up your deit and the goals that you want to achive and they can help you make sure that you have it spot on.....here is that link...

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

If you do all these thing I truly belive that you can reach your goals without the use of aas....Just take the time to post in all three forum's and answer all the qeustions asked that way every one can help you to the fullest...

Good luck and once agian Welcome to AR............