I have never ran Dbol but plan on running it next cycle to jumpstart. I have heard that you can have alot of water retention, but if I take letro and Proviron that will keep the water retention to a minimum right?
I have never ran Dbol but plan on running it next cycle to jumpstart. I have heard that you can have alot of water retention, but if I take letro and Proviron that will keep the water retention to a minimum right?
Letro seems to keep the water off me mate 0.5mg/day works for me, but of course - were all different so you may have to work out the right doseage for you personally
Bloat can be kept to a min by olower doses also...At 25mgs, I have no bloat..At 40 bloat city....over 40 don't know as I have never done more then 40mgs and have probably over 40 cycles with d-bol / drol...I'm not into the AI's so I just use GAS X from walmart for bloat..Works well for me.Originally Posted by reddragon4954
Originally Posted by Jefferey
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At 40mg a day, taken 20mg before and 20mg after workout, I was seriously bloated (now i know what a chic feels like once a month.) On the other hand at 60mg a day, taken 20mg every 5-6 hours during waking hours, the bloat was gone. I think you just need to limit each dose to no more than 20mg every 5-6 hours. IMHO More than 20mg in a 5 hour period is where I have probs with bloat.
Umm...K.
I think we are all talking about different types of bloating here. There is estrogen related water retention and then there is digestive bloating which some orals can contribute to. Gas X does nothing for estrogen related water retention. Gas X is for gas (MOO?).
So yeah, Letro should do the trick reddragon.
This former skinny kid loves the bloat. It goes away as fast as it starts.
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40 cycles?
Originally Posted by sp9
i agree. the bloat makes me look huge and just fades away as quick as it came
Originally Posted by Jefferey
are we supposed to believe this?
Personally I thought the gas x comment was more outrageous...Originally Posted by Mista Massive
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Originally Posted by fLgAtOr
i don't mean to sound like an @ss, but half the time, i can't tell if someone is joking, or being a smart ass, or actually legit when they say stupid things like this
If youve caught any of his other threads, hes 59 and has been using for 30 years. So 40 wouldnt be out of the ball park plus he says he is on year round test atleast at HRT dose. just throwing that out there, before you bust balls.
Any questions about the "oldman"? read...
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=279781
Originally Posted by Mista Massive
like i said, i was unsure, but that link cleared that up for me. nothing personal, just some people make a lot of jokes and its hard to tell as the tone of voice or facial expressions are left out when on the net
You have a PM bro.Originally Posted by Mista Massive
Well I'm 59 yrs old not 29 and have way over 100 total cycles in the past 30years..Believe what you want...I started cycling when I was 28...6 weeks on 6 weeks off for a solid 7 yrs my first go around and all was under Dr. care...All this Dr. prescribed was Test, D-bol and Drol....Never touched deca, EQ Ect until the 90's. So yes 40 or more cycles with d-bol and drol would be very simpleOriginally Posted by Mista Massive
Started at a weight of 230 and 7 yrs late 340lbs...I add one more thing..I've never done an oral cycle by itself..Always use test as a base..Also for the past 15 yrs, I never go below 400 mgs of test yr round and have done 3 cycles ea yr during that time...These cycle are 6 weeks in length 1 gram of test, 750 either deca or Eq and every other cycle has either d-bol or drol in it..with every other cycle no orals.
Last edited by Jefferey; 01-14-2007 at 08:27 AM.
Proviron -- sorry no input.
Letro takes awhile to get balanced within the blood system. You must take it a couple / few weeks before your cycle if you wish to utilize it.
Arimindex and Aromasin are two products widely used and worth checking into. Daily doseage would be .25 mg - 1 mg at the start of your first pin to remedy what you are asking about.
It is nice to have one of the old school lifters on board. Welcome. We will all be reading intently. In many cases there is no substitute for experience.
How are you still alive.Originally Posted by Jefferey
he's living proof steroids will make you impotent, dead, bald.... give you heart attacks, strokes, liver failure, cancer, heart disease, blood clots, urinary/bowel problems......![]()
I say good on ya jeffery, you're living proof people need to stfu about how dangerous steroids are!
proviron is good it will make your muscles hard as shit and it will keep some water off nolvadex wouldnt hurt either i used dbol in my last cycle i used it for 6 wks and at the last 2 wks of that 6 i was at 50 mg a day 2-3 hrs before workout 1 dose i did not notice any additional water retention while also using proviron decca and test.idid however lose a lot of weight when i came off the dbol so i would guess i was definately holding water i lost like 14 lbs in a couple wks
keep in mind though, he's been under a DOCTOR'S care the entire time...does make a difference...Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
So how is your overall endocrine health? How much lean muscle mass do you have? what's your BF%. How's Mr. Willie? You never come off ?Originally Posted by Jefferey
Squat? Bench? DL? How fast do you run the 40? Just kidding on the last one.
You're an inspration for us older guys(51). Gimme the lowdown, bro.
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