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    Exclamation First cycle, please critique

    Stats:

    Age - 22
    Height - 6'3''
    BF% - 14-15%
    Weight - 250lbs
    Cycle experience - none
    Lifting experience - 3 years. About a year and a half with the correct diet.

    I was trying so damn hard to get over the damn 250lbs but if get to 255lbs I'm back to my old weight after taking dump Changed the workout completely about every month or so, even tried to increase the calorie intake to 7000 (clean) for few weeks with 9 to 10 hour quality sleep - no gains. Got back to the old diet of around 5000 cals.

    My diet plan on cycle: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=313742
    replaced all gainers with oats and some sort of protein. Will also bump the cals to around 6000.

    Would you guys think that's pretty much the MAX that i can get to natty?
    My dad is 6' 220lbs @ around 30%+ bf.

    So I finally got all my gear to take it to the next level.

    I'm planning to keep it simple, that is:

    500mg test e (galenika's) for 12 weeks
    with 1g for the first week to frontload.

    Not gona take any anti-e's during the cycle to maximise the gains (have everything that i can possibly need in case of any estro sides)

    PCT plan (will start 2 weeks after the last injection):

    Week 1 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed Aromasin + 100mg Clomid/ed
    Week 2 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed Aromasin + 100mg Clomid/ed
    Week 3 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed Aromasin + 50mg Clomid/ed
    Week 4 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed Aromasin + 50mg Clomid/ed
    Week 5 - 20mgs/ed Nolva + 20mgs/ed Aromasin + 50mg Clomid/ed
    Week 6 - 20mgs/ed Nolva

    How does it look?


    P.S: went to 4 pharms today to buy some syringes and needs but they say they need prescription for the pins but buying syringes is ok....
    How stupid is that?! had to order it online
    Last edited by Ir0n; 10-11-2007 at 02:08 PM.

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    Looks good for a first cycle, but I don't think that you will need to front load on your first one. So just stretch it to 13 weeks instead and if you want a jump start just use d-bol at 30mg a day that should be plenty for a first cycle, good luck

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    Frontloading helps you reach the stable and max blood levels quicker and I don't want to use dbol for the first cycle as i need to find out how will my body responds to test first.

    Plus i'm not in a hurry, been working out natty for so long.. few weeks to kick in will not make a difference

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    By the way I don't expect huge gains. Something that will take me to 260 or 270lbs in the best case would be perfect

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    A humble question...why are you not taking Clomid during the last week or even a few days after your cycle?

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    cos with enanthanate i'm still anabolic after 2 weeks after the last injection due to slow release.

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    bump, experts?

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    I think you ment to put aromasin instead of arimidex in your pct
    If you are planning on 20mg arimidex, than fuc shitty that's crazy
    your stats are close to my own

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    Yea your right, i was thinking about aromasin (edited).

    Kratos, how much were you at when you started your first one, and would you think I could get anything more natty?

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    I was 250 at around 18% when I started my first cycle. It wasn't too long ago I started honestly. Getting bigger is easy, getting quality is tough. I would say go for it, but that's just me. My goals arn't really to get any bigger. I'm about 6'3'' 255 right now and about 15%. I just want to get as much body fat off me as I can and stay the same weight. I had a back injury from rowing crew. I can remember being at a friend's house at penn state. He said "how much you wei***ng these days?" I went to use the scale and it spun till it hit 290 (I think the dial said "one at a time please"). I could rest a beer bottle on my gut at that point.

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    Well that's the thing, I would like to get a lot bigger. Over 300 margin with single digit bf % would be nice. I have started doing cardio not that long ago so i'll probably drop 1 or 2 % down the road if i'll keep it up (and i intend to do so).

    I keep hearing that you should start cycle below 15% bf due to the fact that all the aromatize process takes place in your fat lipids, but i guess you can always control the estro sides and the more estro (that is under control) the better gains.

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    Bump. So im good to go?

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    good to go bro,looks like you've done your research,got a solid training and diet schedule worked out.like to see that!im sure you'l be very happy with you first cycle.good luck

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    Sincerely I'd not start with 1g of test the first week because it could overcharge your natty receptors and they could refuse the high amount of stuff. In my pov...

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    Had the first shot yesterday. Had one of my friends to poke me for the first time, just couldn't do it myself. Found out that it doesn't hurt at all when you dart it in.

    Had a numb leg for a minute or two and can still feel the site the next day. Presume the gear is good then.

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    did you frontload with the first shot? congrats bro...

    the cycle looks good for your 1st and for your stats. i like your diet as well, you should make some solid keepable gains.

    good luck!

    IG

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    Thanks, yes I stuck 500mg in my first one and will do that the next time.

    Quick question: when you say inject twice a week, is it at utmost importace to do it in 3,5 days or could i do it like every 3 days + few hours (when ever i'm at home) ?

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    ya you don't need to time it to the minute... the more consistent the better but there's no harm in a variance of a few hours.

    lol.. we should all carry "shot alarms".

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    lol... that's the thing, wouldn't want to carry the gear to work and poke it in a toilet like an H addict. lol.

    It's enough that i had to sign in to an syringe exchange clinic yesterday. Long story short - couldn't be bothered ordering online again when they deal them out for free.

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    lol... that's the thing, wouldn't want to carry the gear to work and poke it in a toilet like an H addict. lol.

    It's enough that i had to sign in to an syringe exchange clinic yesterday. Long story short - couldn't be bothered ordering online again when they deal them out for free.

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    just realized you're from Ireland.. i'm 1/2 Italian (father's side) and 1/2 Irish.. my grandfather is from right outside of Belfast but i can't remember the name of the town.. good golfing over there, huh?

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    never played golf to be honest, just don't see it at sport, lol.
    I'm from Dublin, but with I lived up in the north. wouldn't;t have to worry about gear being illegal

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