Test E - Bold (EQ) 12wk

[Thunderblade]

Good day fellow board members,

In about one month from now Im going to start my first anabolic cycle.
After doing alot of researching and following several discussions on this and other boards I produced my own cycle. I really like it if I could get some feedback on my cycle. I appologize in advance for my English, due the fact that im from The Netherlands.

Well, here it goes...

My first cycle ever:
Week 1 - 12 = Test-E 500mg/week (250mg twice a week)
Week 1 - 12 = Boldenone (EQ) 500 mg/week (250mg twice a week)
Week 10 -14 = HCG 500IU (twice per week) << to start boosting my testicals.
Week 10 -14 = Vitamin E 1000IU per day (tab)
Week 1 - 14 = Arimidex 0,25mg per day??????????????

Questions about the main cycle:
1. Both components (test-e and bold) are quite mild and safe. Is this cycle safe for me to use are my FIRST one??? Some people say 1gr of steriods a week is to much to handle.. Others say that its duable. Comments on this please.

2. Is it a good idea to run HCG during last 4 weeks of the cycle + during first 3 weeks of PCT?? Some say HCG shouldn't be used during PCT but before it. And some say I dont need HCG since my cycle isn't that advanced yet.

3. Should i start using an Anti-Oes like Arimidex during cycle? Or only when I get a bloated look or starting to retain a lot of water?

Keep in mind that I'm only going to do about 3 cycles in my life. This because my goal is to have a decent musculair body (dont want to be tooooo big). So I want to get the most out of each cycle. Alot of people advice only test-e to see how ur body responds to 1 component. In my situation I want to get the most out of each cycle so Im stacking the most safe components to get the best results. Please give some feedback on this If you really think im doing something wrong here.

Now its time for my PCT:

Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
15 20mgs/day 1000iu/(3xweek) 20mgs/day 1000iu/day
16 20mgs/day 1000iu/(3xweek) 20mgs/day 1000iu/day
17 20mgs/day 1000iu/(3xweek) 20mgs/day 1000iu/day
18 20mgs/day 20mgs/day
19 20mgs/day 20mgs/day
20 20mgs/day

Questions about PCT:
3. Is this a good pct for my cycle or an overkill? Some say Nolvadex only would be sufficient. Like Nolvadex; 40/40/20/20/20

Supplementation During and after cycle:

ON 100% Whey protein (1,5 hours before workout)
ON 100% Casein protein (bedtime)

Recovery:
Controlled Labs Pruple Wraath (during-post/workout)

General Health:
Vitamin E
Vitamin B complex
ON Optimen (multi-vits)
ON ZMA (bedtime)

Muscle-builders:
Controlled Labs Green Magnitude (creatine for pre-workout during PCT)
Primaforce Carb Slam (waxy maize starch, improves creatine uptake)
Controlled Labs White Flood (will use this during PCT)

Nutrition:
Im going to do a clean food bulk to stay as lean as possible.
The carb sources will be (morning) oats, brinta, (mid-day) rice and patatoes.
Simple carbs sources will be green beans and brocolli. Fruits will be grapefruit. These will be eaten along side the complex carbs.
Natural protein sources will be cabbage-fish (mainly), chickenbreast (without skin) and egg whites. Also whey protein and caseine protein.
Last but not least, I will get my fat from almonds and peanut butter.

Training:
My training will consist out of a split routine. I will train one big muscle part in the morning (gym). And arms in the evening at home. Abs/calves will be trained every 2 days. The morning workout will be low reps (6-8) and heavy weight. Night workout will be based on getting a good pump in the arms to improve nutritional uptake.


I hope you guys can give me some good feedback and tips.
I thank you in advance

[redz]

Training:
My training will consist out of a split routine. I will train one big muscle part in the morning (gym). And arms in the evening at home. Abs/calves will be trained every 2 days. The morning workout will be low reps (6-8) and heavy weight. Night workout will be based on getting a good pump in the arms to improve nutritional uptake.

Dont train arms every day, this training routine looks rediculous do you plan on working out every day? The cycle itself doesnt look too bad but make sure you know what your doing with your training and dont forget to eat alot more than you noramlly do.

[jackdup04]

Wow..Thats alot to digest...4give me for not commenting on all of it...First off very good first cycle in my opinion..Both are very mild and u should be fine at those doses IMO.. I wouldnt take the arimidex unless u know ur very gyno prone..Estrogen will help ur gains..Also don't think ull need hcg with this.. im sure some guys will disagree but ur cycle is very mild and theres alot of simpler better pct's... It looks like uve done alot of research on ur cycle and NONE on training which is very counter productive..U cant train everyday and especially the same muscle group!! Remember u dont grow when ur training u grow when ur resting!! Make sure u get ample rest and sleep...

[peachfuzz]

My first cycle ever:
Week 1 - 12 = Test-E 500mg/week (250mg twice a week)
Week 1 - 12 = Boldenone (EQ) 500 mg/week (250mg twice a week)

Week 1 - 12 = Boldenone (EQ) 500 mg/week (250mg twice a week
Week 3 - 14 = Test-E 500mg/week (250mg twice a week)
Id run it like this. EQ has a longer half life

Questions about the main cycle:
1. Both components (test-e and bold) are quite mild and safe. Is this cycle safe for me to use are my FIRST one??? Some people say 1gr of steriods a week is to much to handle.. Others say that its duable. Comments on this please.

sounds like a safe and sane enough cycle for a first.

3. Should i start using an Anti-Oes like Arimidex during cycle? Or only when I get a bloated look or starting to retain a lot of water?

as long as your bp is ok i wouldnt run one just because of bloat. your taking test. you bloat. only if gyno shows it ugly face.

Now its time for my PCT:

wait two weeks after last injection to start the nolva/aromasin. i wont comment on the HCG as its not my area of expertise.


as far as the rest. plan plan plan. diet/training/rest. i cant stress the importance of all three.

[SNUKA]

i actually think that eq should be used in the first couple of cycles because after you gain experience you will see that eq kinda sucks in future cycles, but thats just my opinion. if i were to run the cycle i would run it like this
weeks 1-12 eq 500mg
weeks 1-13 test e 500mg
pct weeks 16-19
20mgs nolvadex and 20mgs of aromasin a day for atleast 4 weeks
i dont think you will need HCG but it wouldnt hurt if i were to run it it would be at 250-500ius twice a week during weeks 14 and 15. this is just my opinion on how i would do things

[one8nine]

My first cycle ever:
Week 1 - 12 = Test-E 500mg/week (250mg twice a week)
Week 1 - 12 = Boldenone (EQ) 500 mg/week (250mg twice a week)
Week 10 -14 = HCG 500IU (twice per week) << to start boosting my testicals.
Week 10 -14 = Vitamin E 1000IU per day (tab)
Week 1 - 14 = Arimidex 0,25mg per day??????????????

make you eq stop week 10 match up for pct
i love the rest

Questions about the main cycle:
1. Both components (test-e and bold) are quite mild and safe. Is this cycle safe for me to use are my FIRST one??? Some people say 1gr of steriods a week is to much to handle.. Others say that its duable. Comments on this please

do it

2. Is it a good idea to run HCG during last 4 weeks of the cycle + during first 3 weeks of PCT?? Some say HCG shouldn't be used during PCT but before it. And some say I dont need HCG since my cycle isn't that advanced yet.

i like how you have it

3. Should i start using an Anti-Oes like Arimidex during cycle? Or only when I get a bloated look or starting to retain a lot of water?

start right away. better to prevent a problem than deal with it when it comes up

Keep in mind that I'm only going to do about 3 cycles in my life. This because my goal is to have a decent musculair body (dont want to be tooooo big). So I want to get the most out of each cycle. Alot of people advice only test-e to see how ur body responds to 1 component. In my situation I want to get the most out of each cycle so Im stacking the most safe components to get the best results. Please give some feedback on this If you really think im doing something wrong here.

i say okay on adding eq

Now its time for my PCT:

Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
15 20mgs/day 1000iu/(3xweek) 20mgs/day 1000iu/day
16 20mgs/day 1000iu/(3xweek) 20mgs/day 1000iu/day
17 20mgs/day 1000iu/(3xweek) 20mgs/day 1000iu/day
18 20mgs/day 20mgs/day
19 20mgs/day 20mgs/day
20 20mgs/day

Questions about PCT:
3. Is this a good pct for my cycle or an overkill? Some say Nolvadex only would be sufficient. Like Nolvadex; 40/40/20/20/20

both options are terrible
heres my thread on what i think about pct


my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

My training will consist out of a split routine. I will train one big muscle part in the morning (gym). And arms in the evening at home. Abs/calves will be trained every 2 days. The morning workout will be low reps (6-8) and heavy weight. Night workout will be based on getting a good pump in the arms to improve nutritional uptake.

dont train your arms every day youll hurt yourself

[Thunderblade]

Thanks all for the comments. I really appriciate it!

On the cycle:

Im going to take test-e till week 13 now. Than week 15 PCT to match up with the halfllife of Boldenone (EQ).

PCT will be:

Nolvadex 40/20/20/20/20 (5 weeks)

No anti-oest on cycle (only when signs of gyno). No HCG since it is advisable at more advanced cycles. Question: Should I still use Aromasin at the PCT?

Training:
I train 5 to 6 times a week. With enough rest between each bodypart. I want to pump up my biceps or tricep each night to let nutritions flow better to it at night. Which makes it grow much faster. It will be light pumps with not much effort. So it will recover fast enough.

For example:
Mondays - Chest + calves, Triceps (at night)
Tuesday - Back + abs, Biceps (at night)
Wednesday - Legs + calves
Thursday - Shoulders + abs, Triceps (at night)
Friday - Back + calves, Biceps (at night)

This way all body parts get plenty of recovery. you must take in mind that I use alot of supplements and I eat 6 times a day with alot of good carbs. Besides that steriods make me recover faster too.
This way should be duable. If not, I can always adjust my training plan. Im formiliar with different training routines so it will work out. Thanks for the comments on my training tho

[one8nine]

i like it all
and yes add 50mg ed of aromasin to your pct

[SNUKA]

i like it all
and yes add 50mg ed of aromasin to your pct

50mg ed seems nuts i have never seen anyone go over 30mg and even then that was over kill. 20-25mg should be perfect

[one8nine]

50mg ed seems nuts i have never seen anyone go over 30mg and even then that was over kill. 20-25mg should be perfect

ive never heard that before...

[peachfuzz]

25-50mg

[one8nine]

25-50mg

yeah 25mg cycle, 50mg pct

[Thunderblade]

I won't use any anti-oes in my pct. Will only use it when really needed. I believe the Big Cat's theory.
When you dont need it, dont use it.

[Discipline_1]

def run the test 2 weeks longer than the eq, you dont want to start any pct until 3 weeks after your last eq shot, that is why you should run the test longer because the enanthate ester is shorter than the eq ester

[one8nine]

I won't use any anti-oes in my pct. Will only use it when really needed. I believe the Big Cat's theory.
When you dont need it, dont use it.

i guess you dont understand how much estrogen you need then
and how much that cycle will give you
it needs to be controlled especially in pct

[FiniX]

im on the similar cycle but im doing 1ml of 250mg of test e and 1ml of 250mg bold a week now im only 21 and this is my first cycle is 250mg of each enouf or should i be doing 500mg of each? plus im taking 4 d-bol 10mgs a day.. sum people told me not to take that should i stop on it? or still take it?

[PT]

im on the similar cycle but im doing 1ml of 250mg of test e and 1ml of 250mg bold a week now im only 21 and this is my first cycle is 250mg of each enouf or should i be doing 500mg of each? plus im taking 4 d-bol 10mgs a day.. sum people told me not to take that should i stop on it? or still take it?

please start your own thread so you can get more responses, thank you.


-PT