Cycle suggestions

[noexcuses88]

Through this website and consistent motivation, I have greatly altered my body. I have been cutting down for the past couple of years with 2 clen/t3 cycles and now believe that I am ready to start Aas.

Stats

Age:21
Weight:235
height : 6'2"
Goals: looking to get more defined not "bigger"
Training experience: 7 years
bf: 12-15%

Previous treads:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=337572
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=294256


Couple of pictures to show where I am starting from.

[stallion_1]

Well testosterone is always good.

[noexcuses88]

mmmmm.. and the sarcasm begins...

always good for a couple of laughs


NEXT....

[one8nine]

wow bro im really impressed good job you look ready for sure
whats the question??

[Phate]

very nice post, i'll personally make sure this thread gets lots of attention, lol, anyway, lets get started

normal first cycle would be test only, which can be a cutter or bulker, or in your case, i'd say a lean bulker

personally i would use either test prop for 8-10 weeks or test enth for 12 weeks with a-dex to keep water retention down and in either case end the cycle with winny to show off that rock hard physique

couple that with a very clean diet and your in for some good muscle gains with a good drop in bf%

[stallion_1]

mmmmm.. And the sarcasm begins...

Always good for a couple of laughs


next....

dude, i wasnt being sarcastic. I meant to say test is always good for a cycle.

[one8nine]

ohhh the question was cycle suggestions ha ha
phate had a great response

i really like
1-10 test e 500mg wk
1-6 winny 50mg ed
1-12 arimidex or letro
13-16 pct

or

1-8 test p 50mg ed
1-8 masteron 50mg ed
9-12 pct
keep letro on hand

[noexcuses88]

wow bro im really impressed good job you look ready for sure
whats the question??

Thanks... appreciate it. I hate using the words AAS and cutting at the same time but that is basically what I am looking for.

very nice post, i'll personally make sure this thread gets lots of attention, lol, anyway, lets get started

normal first cycle would be test only, which can be a cutter or bulker, or in your case, i'd say a lean bulker

personally i would use either test prop for 8-10 weeks or test enth for 12 weeks with a-dex to keep water retention down and in either case end the cycle with winny to show off that rock hard physique

couple that with a very clean diet and your in for some good muscle gains with a good drop in bf%

Thanks for your help. I am honored. You seem really informed.
What doseages should I run the test and a-dex at?
Also how long should I run winny?
And is it necessary to run letro as a pct?

[one8nine]

And is it necessary to run letro as a pct?

letro is very bad in pct because it can cause an estrogen rebound
if you want to know what i think about letro/pct i made a handy thread on my personal belief

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

[noexcuses88]

ohhh the question was cycle suggestions ha ha
phate had a great response

i really like
1-10 test e 500mg wk
1-6 winny 50mg ed
1-12 arimidex or letro
13-16 pct

or

1-8 test p 50mg ed
1-8 masteron 50mg ed
9-12 pct
keep letro on hand

The first cycle sounds good. Why run winny at the beginning of the cycle instead of the end?
Have you personally gotten good results off that cycle?

[one8nine]

The first cycle sounds good. Why run winny at the beginning of the cycle instead of the end?
Have you personally gotten good results off that cycle?

because the test takes several weeks to kick in. the beginning you take advantage of Winny the end you take advantage of both

god no i wouldn't be caught dead with test e its far too unstable. I'm not scared of needles but most people are so thats why i suggested both

my last cycle was something like
80mg test p ed
80mg Masteron ed
40mg tren ed
.25mg letro ed

results were phenomenal
180 12% -> 215 7%