My cycle, Input please!

**RODDAWG** · 08-02-2008, 11:02 AM

MY 3rd go around here. My stats are:
6'2
230lbs
26years old
15% BF

My last cycle I did a 12 week:
Tren A 500week
Prop 500week
Winn 500week last 6 weeks of cycle.

With my awsome workouts and great cardio I had great results. Im looking to bumb up my results with a more increase, intense AAS stack. Here it is.

New Cycle:
16 weeks of...
Tren A 500ml week
Prop 250ml week
Masteron 500ml week
Winn 50ml ED , last six weeks
Anavar ????
EQ??????

Please critique, Cut stuff out or add stuff.
Also....Recommended PCT for this??????

Thanks Fellas!!!!!

**jamyjamjr** · 08-02-2008, 11:20 AM

why so low on the prop??? bump up to 500mg, u lookin to cut or bulk?? dont see why you'd need the masteron either way. imo save it for another cycle.. id do tren , prop, run var at 40mg ed untill it's time to do the winnie.. ull be lookin ripped buddy!

**joe2009** · 08-02-2008, 11:34 AM

now thats an expensive cycle, wish i had the money to do one like that

**RODDAWG** · 08-02-2008, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by jamyjamjr

why so low on the prop??? bump up to 500mg, u lookin to cut or bulk?? dont see why you'd need the masteron either way. imo save it for another cycle.. id do tren, prop, run var at 40mg ed untill it's time to do the winnie.. ull be lookin ripped buddy!

Looking to cut! From reading up Mast on the steroid .com site said it was good to stack with all of the above. It hold less water and give me the pump in the gym?

What is Var gonna do that Winn wont do, Tren /Prop/Var seems like it give me the same results as my last Tren/Prop/Winn Cycle. Looking to take that over the top.

Thanks for the advise.

**MercyDog** · 08-02-2008, 02:53 PM

stacking isn't all that great. If you really wanted to up the gear try 1050p/700t, no need for orals

**Dukkit** · 08-02-2008, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by RODDAWG

MY 3rd go around here. My stats are:
6'2
230lbs
26years old
15% BF

My last cycle I did a 12 week:
Tren A 500week
Prop 500week
Winn 500week last 6 weeks of cycle.

With my awsome workouts and great cardio I had great results. Im looking to bumb up my results with a more increase, intense AAS stack. Here it is.

New Cycle:
16 weeks of...
Tren A 500ml week
Prop 250ml week
Masteron 500ml week
Winn 50ml ED , last six weeks
Anavar ????
EQ??????

Please critique, Cut stuff out or add stuff.
Also....Recommended PCT for this??????

Thanks Fellas!!!!!

whew, okay here goes. if this is only your 3rd cycle, you really shouldnt need all that.
i would run the Tren at 500+ week
masteron at 500-600 week
prop i would bump from 250 to 300. but i do agree with running it low for whoever posted above and asked why you are? doin so will let the tren and mast really do their thing. together they will give you better results with the test low and also will help lesson the sides from the tren. so definitly run the test lower. thats what i do and its great.

another thing... for only your 3rd cycle.. you dont need to run it at 16 weeks. with all the compounds that will wreak havoc on your system. with that cycle i would only run it for 8-10 tops.

and... at your body fat percentage... the masteron isnt what you need. the masteron helps with fat loss. but to really SEE the affects of it a lower body fat % is key.

for PCT i would definitly run HCG your last 2 weeks of cycle and first 2 weeks of PCT. i prefer to run caber during cycles with tren and during PCT also. it helps with the lowered sex drive and keepin your penis working correctly. for me at least.
so run HCG, Nolva, Caber and some aromisin. i use clomid also with my nolva but alot of ppl dont like clomid. to each his own.

**one8nine** · 08-02-2008, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by RODDAWG

15% BF

i recomend 12% bodyfat before you cycle

Originally Posted by RODDAWG

New Cycle:
16 weeks of...
Tren A 500ml week
Prop 250ml week
Masteron 500ml week
Winn 50ml ED , last six weeks
Anavar ????
EQ??????

Please critique, Cut stuff out or add stuff.
Also....Recommended PCT for this??????

Thanks Fellas!!!!!

ml? you mean mg.
tren a looks good
prop is okay, could be higher but thats personall preference
masteron, winny and anavar are all dht base.. you really only need 1. i would choose masteron as you have a 16 week cycle and it is injectable, toss the orals
eq for what exactly? i would only recomend eq to an endurance athlete

youll be injecting daily, correct?

my pct

http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-cycle-therapy/354573-one8nines-opinion-pct-links-side-effect-control-too.html#post4111013

OH! and keep some letro on hand for your tren/test sides

**one8nine** · 08-02-2008, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by jamyjamjr

why so low on the prop??? bump up to 500mg, u lookin to cut or bulk?? dont see why you'd need the masteron either way. imo save it for another cycle.. id do tren, prop, run var at 40mg ed untill it's time to do the winnie.. ull be lookin ripped buddy!

run var until Winny?
did you just condone 4 months of orals?

**one8nine** · 08-02-2008, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by RODDAWG

Looking to cut! From reading up Mast on the steroid .com site said it was good to stack with all of the above. It hold less water and give me the pump in the gym?

What is Var gonna do that Winn wont do, Tren /Prop/Var seems like it give me the same results as my last Tren/Prop/Winn Cycle. Looking to take that over the top.

Thanks for the advise.

your are right, they are very very similar.
by the way, getting cut is more in your diet than ANYTHING

**john vega** · 08-03-2008, 10:24 PM

correct me if im wrong, but isnt 16 WEEKS of tren WAY too long to cycle. i thought from research that 8 weeks was maximum with tren due to the havoc it tends ti wreak on your HPTA....if ur gonna run tren that long, (which i personally dont recommend from what ive read)...id start the hcg from week 10 and on. ur nuts are gonna look like almonds without the shells dude....seriously!!!