Tren gyno

**infofinder** · 08-05-2008, 05:44 PM

I have been on a 10wk cycle of tren e for 5wks up untill last week. 2wks ago i noticed a hard lump bilaterally on the right about the size of a nickle and on the left the size of a dime. I was on a cycle of tren e 130mg with 40mg prop, i was doing 2ccs a week and i also ran 5wks of winny at 50mg ed, i also took/ am taking clen , during the cycle i took 10mg of nolv ed. I gave the lumps a week and upped my nolv to 20mg ed. Then when i noticed no decrease in size i stopped tren all togeather. I bought some letro and caber and began taking them. I have been on 2.5mg letro for 10days now and am on my 5th day of caber at 500mcg. i also started taking 500mg of B6 3 days ago. I still have not noticed any reduction in size. lumps are hard membranous and are sensitive when palpated.

my question is what else can i do? How long does tren e take to get out of your system... its been eight days since my last injection. Will it ever not be sensitive to palpate. Will future steroid use only increase there size even if proper precautions are taken? I am 170 9% bf and 5.9", so It shouldnt be fat in there it deffinatly feels glandular. I am thinking of taking primo and winny for a week to see if it doesnt help, how do I cycle off letro and caber as to not cause pproblems with my levels and how should i do this? please help me

PT · 08-05-2008, 05:46 PM

drop the nolva at once and use armidex as well as b-6 and possibly bromo

**one8nine** · 08-05-2008, 05:49 PM

prop needs to be injected DAILY
nolva makes tren gyno WORSE
you are good with what you are doing now... letro/caber/b6
tren e takes 3 weeks after final injection
you did not take the proper precaution. you used nolva. nolva is for pct, NOT cycle, especially with tren/deca /drol

gyno/sides
estrogen/progesterone and gyno/side effects INFO FOR NEW GUYS

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-cycle-therapy/354573-one8nines-opinion-pct-links-side-effect-control-too.html#post4111013

do not continue this cycle with more aas... use your caber/letro/b6 until its gone and gradually decrease.
also, 3 weeks after your last tren shot start an aggressive pct like the one i posted

**one8nine** · 08-05-2008, 06:03 PM

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**infofinder** · 08-05-2008, 06:10 PM

so should I stay off the cycle completely or get back on? Run the letro at 2.5 and caber at 500mcg and b6 at 500mg untill gyno is gone? Then run letro 2., 1.5, .5, .5? and the caber just stop it cold or does it need to be cycled of too.
I read your post and I have plenty of nolve, plenty of hcg , and plenty of clomid, can i run 500iu hcg 2wks, nolve 4wks and be all right? Once the 3rd week hits off the tren e will my symptoms decline more? Would getting back on the tren e and finishing the cycle just aggeravate symptoms or now that I am on caber, letro and B6 am i protected?

**one8nine** · 08-05-2008, 06:18 PM

you need to start pct 3 weeks after your final tren shot
letro is tapered the others are fine to just cut
thats fine if you add proviron or aromasin

i suggest you just need to stop and put some more learning in before something else goes wrong. honestly if you didnt know not to run nolva on cycle especially while on tren i think you need to step back for a little..

**DS21** · 08-05-2008, 06:56 PM

189, don't you think it would be wise for him to just keep running letro at 2.5mg/ed just as if he was running gyno reversal, but add hcg ? Then when/if the lumps go away tapper down to .25mg and finally get off with nolva. The letro will stop all estrogen production, just a thought.

**one8nine** · 08-05-2008, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by DS21

189, don't you think it would be wise for him to just keep running letro at 2.5mg/ed just as if he was running gyno reversal, but add hcg? Then when/if the lumps go away tapper down to .25mg and finally get off with nolva. The letro will stop all estrogen production, just a thought.

right..
thats what i suggested i think? but you just left out the caber and proviron ?

**DS21** · 08-05-2008, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

right..
thats what i suggested i think? but you just left out the caber and proviron?

I read it again and that is what you wrote, I read your first post and it said to run an aggresive pct. I thought you wanted him to run nolva and proviron or aromisan with letro. Which I am sure he could, just was wondering if it was needed since letro doesn't really allow estrogen to aromitize and nolva doesn't allow it to bind to tissue. I didn't know if there was a need to run a serm? I am about to start a tren cycle and just trying to learn as much as I can before starting.

**J-Dogg** · 08-05-2008, 07:18 PM

I know it's known that tren gyno is made worse by nova, but I have tren gyno and letro does nothing for it.

Taking 20mgs 3 times a day of nova though, it goes away until I go off it.

**jc95605** · 08-05-2008, 07:18 PM

nolva while taking tren , geeez. Well take letro and caber.......NOW!

**Billytk03z** · 08-05-2008, 11:41 PM

Its amazing how many peeps jump on cycles without fully educating themselves on the dos and donts while using various AAS....

NOlVA and 19nor's are a NO NO!!!!!

I am on a Prop/NPP cycle at the moment and I am running low does letro along with caber 2x a week because I would rather be safe than sorry later on... this cycle is a primer for a future Tren A cycle that I will be running and you can bet it will consist again of caber and letro....

bro you need to start caber and/or bromo and letro asap....... good luck....